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Tanypteryx
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Message 14 of 223 (701295)
06-16-2013 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Faith
06-16-2013 5:01 AM


faith writes:

Since I am a creationist of course I can't possibly have anything of value to say, and all I can say is it makes sense to me that a coding system couldn't have arisen by purely biological means.

And true to form, you never let ignorance keep you from spouting off anyway.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Tanypteryx
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Message 118 of 223 (725107)
04-24-2014 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by Ed67
04-24-2014 10:27 AM


Re: I agree - same old argument, different name
Ed67 writes:

"complex specified information" is a term in the English language understandable by English speakers. It means exactly what it says. It is not a mathematical term, nor does it "belong" to Dembski by virtue of his using it.

I have seen creationists use the words "complex specified information" many times, but I have never seen a definition that made me think, "oh, now I get it".

I know what "complex information" is, what is specified information? Specified how?

All you seem to be saying is, "complex specified information" means "complex specified information".

You assert that DNA contains "complex specified information", but all I see is molecules and chemistry. Is DNA the only kind of "complex specified information"?

It looks like "complex specified information" really means "dazzle them with bullshit".


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Tanypteryx
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Message 121 of 223 (725114)
04-24-2014 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 120 by Taq
04-24-2014 11:09 AM


Re: I agree - same old argument, different name
Complex specified information is the measurement of a creationists incredulity as to the production of modern genomes through mutation and selection.

CSI really stands for Creationist Standard Incredulity.

Oh, now I get it!! Thanks.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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