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Author Topic:   Doesn't Natural Selection lead to Specified Complexity?
Peter
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Message 129 of 138 (623133)
07-08-2011 9:42 AM
Reply to: Message 128 by PaulK
06-22-2011 12:41 PM


Re: Drifting into drift.
But the distribution of genes in the current generation is about which 'genes' survive ... isn't it?

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Peter
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Message 133 of 138 (701950)
06-28-2013 10:24 AM
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07-08-2011 10:07 AM


Re: Drifting into drift.
But a sterile individual can still affect the gene distribution in the subsequent generation ... by potentially removing some individuals from contributing to the next generation.
The dead thing is irrelevant in the model I was considering since if you are dead youe are, by definition, not IN the population.

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Peter
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Message 135 of 138 (701956)
06-28-2013 10:37 AM
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06-28-2013 10:29 AM


Re: Drifting into drift.
Isn't behaviour (i.e. action) related to genetic makeup?
The deceased are counted, since we are looking at an iteration over a number of generations.
Perhaps it is more like a filter where we have something like:
a[k] = a[k-1] + b.a[k-2] ....
But the deceased are involved as they would account for 'activity' in previous iterations.

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Peter
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Message 137 of 138 (702082)
07-01-2013 5:20 AM
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06-28-2013 10:55 AM


Re: Drifting into drift.
At any point in time, k, the genetic makeup of the population is an acculation of the results from the past .... which will include deceased individuals. So maybe I changed tack a bit there, but it's been a while since I even looked at what I was saying here.
'Behaviour' is part of my environment ....
The deceased are no longer part of the population at time k, but were at some point from k-1 .... k-n.

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