Hollow Earth Expedition?

Are we supposed to be taking this stuff seriously? Are you actually suggesting that there really might be an entry point to the inside of the Earth located at the north pole? That the center of gravity of the earth might not be about 6400 km straight down from here?Or more fundamentally, do you believe you've presented something that anyone ought to spend real effort refuting? Because the proposals in this thread haven't even reached 'Chariot of the Gods' level of seriousness.

If that was true than the force of gravity one experienced would vary noticeably depending on where on the surface of the Earth one was, which it doesn't. Another question would be, what is the crust made of? Taking a generous figure of 50km for the thickness of the Earth's crust, then if that's all there is to the Earth, the crust must have a density 236 time greater than water, and is therefore made of no known substance, and in particular not of the substances which we know the crust is made of. Well, they've shown you videos of it. That's not quite the same thing. I can show you videos of dragons ... Well, this was a good question. And if the answer had been: "We did the math, and, dammit, you're right, if the Earth was rotating we'd all be flung off into space" then we'd all be geocentrists. Heliocentrism didn't triumph because no-one asked such questions, or because heliocentrists ignored them, but because heliocentrists answered them. Meanwhile, people have also addressed good questions to people who weren't able to answer them, and who turned out to be complete idiots. This is how we sort the men from the boys. My textbook, try reading chapter 3.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

A hollow earth you can reach by a tunnel?From blockbuster:
Journey to the Centre of the EarthTo Disney:
Atlantis: The Lost EmpireUnless... your idea is something we haven't been talking about here?
I can't think of a movie that involves a hollow earth with simply nothing there... could possibly make for an interesting disaster movie?

Agreed.
But I told you I don't have an issue with saying that North and South America mostly line up with Europe and Africa. (This area of context would include Greenland).
The problem is with the other coastlines for the Pacific ocean, not the Atlantic.I can look at a globe too (it's just more difficult to post a 3D picture of a globe) and see that North and South America do not line up with Asia and Australia. They both angle inwards (towards Africa) at their southern ends. They couldn't possibly line up without pulling Europe away from North America. Are you trying to say they actually go together? Are you trying to say your video shows that it does? Maybe I'll try to take a look at the warp-job they're pulling over your eyes this weekend. ...just two, really. (Centre of gravity and coasts not lining up) Neither of which you have a rebuttal for... ...that I countered with actual pictures and explanations everyone can see... ...those are just plain funny. YECs wish they were as entertaining as me. It would at least give a reason for someone to pay attention to them.

LoL and quote mining is also a yec trait. Funny how my topic brought out the yec attitude in everyone.

How else would you expect us to react to something so utterly stupid? The whole concept is stupid and Brooks Agnew is a known liar and charlatan. There is nothing scientific in what he is trying to present. That you want to give him any attention makes me suspicious of your motives.
A random guy that posts no information about himself, just happens to post an OP about Brooks Agnew and Neal Adams. Curiouser and curiouser.You do realize Neal Adams is a comic book artist don't you?Edited by Theodoric, : punctuation

No, just you.The Earth has just about as much chance of being hollow as it does flat and orbited by the sun. You've been provided evidence and explanations for why the Earth is not and could not be hollow. You're ignoring it and instead focusing on posts from people who thought you were asking a stupid question.You said up front that you didn't have a horse in this race and preferred to "hold off my judgment." You have more than enough information to judge now, why don't you focus on that and let us know what you think?--Percy

A Dyson sphere?

Yes, I have. Since I was a kid, it's been a point of honour among my cousins to do it. You're in for a lot of ribbing if you can't. There are lots of other projections besides Mercator that are accurate. All you'd have to do to really test the idea is to get an accurate map, say a sinusoidal projection with interuptions (much like an orange peel), cut out the continents and scotch-tape them together by the edges.I've looked at your video and it's far from convincing. When two coastlines come close together, they are rotated out of view before you can see how well they fit. When they come around again, they fit miraculously but you can't tell if there's any overlap.(The Mediterranean Sea is one obvious example that isn't explained by simple expansion.)

Actually, I was simply thinking of a hollow earth where major earthquakes happened and continents were just falling "into the earth" and breaking apart or something. Planet buster.But a Dyson sphere would be even cooler.
Now it's a Sci-Fi movie where our earth used to be a sun of a technologically advanced population... The crust is simply dust that accumulated on a long-lost (and un-used) Dyson sphere.
And then they want to re-ignite the whole process in order to control the (practically) infinite energy available.
The only one who can stop their evil monopoly and manipulation is... Adam West! '60s Batman to the rescue!"Two hands on the bat-rope, Robin. We're about to enter the centre of the Earth!"

You keep using that word... I do not think-ita-means what you think-ita-means.
(Said with a wicked mustache)Seriously, though. I'm just having some fun. I'm not trying to insult you or anything. Did you have something you wanted to discuss in-depth and actually have a back-and-forth about?I'm sensing a lot of back-ing here, but not so much forth-ing...

That involves building a super structure around a star. I don't think that even comes close to some mysterious process that expands a planet and hollows out the core.

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You keep using that word... I do not think-ita-means what you think-ita-means.
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Seriously, though. I'm just having some fun. I'm not trying to insult you or anything. Did you have something you wanted to discuss in-depth and actually have a back-and-forth about?

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I'm sensing a lot of back-ing here, but not so much forth-ing...

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Well, sort of.Let me make a little forth-ing to clear up some misunderstanding.I'm an atheist. I'm neither an evolutionist nor a creationist. It's not that I care. It's that I firmly believe to not have an opinion on something that I don't have a good grasp of. There are a lot of engineers here, so I'm sure people know what I mean about "normal" people nosing around where they're not qualified to do. It's annoying when other people do it to me. Why would I do it to other people?Regarding this topic, I just found it and thought it was an interesting/cool idea. I think the misunderstanding stems from people's polarizing opinion on things. To most people here, interesting equates to supportive. That's where the snark and dismissive comments came from I suspect very much.I have a very interesting idea for a science fiction novel that I plan to work on. And I was hoping to get some more info on the subject or perhaps some insight. The supposed phd guy I linked to talks about "negative vibrations from the inner mind" and all that crap.I did more googling and found a few opinion pieces on it. But not much.So, I guess I was hoping people here would find it at least a little bit interesting and perhaps even give a couple proposals on how this could be possible.Instead, the very annoying YEC traits that I've been seeing over the years of reading on various evo vs creo forums are displayed by responders here. I say that with the greatest sincerity, and I can understand how people become defensive about it. But it's true.Anyway, since this topic isn't really drawing anything but snark comments and displays of YEC qualities, I'm not really interested in it anymore.I have some friends from college that have become college professors. I'll ask for their opinions. No, not the opinion of there's any validity to the hollow earth stuff. But opinion on how I can make a scifi novel on the topic sound less like it was written by a crank (me).

Next to Google, Wikipedia is your best friend: Dyson Sphere
It's a science fiction term based on a thought experiment performed by Freeman Dyson.If we try to use solar power, the problem is that the earth's surface only receives a very small fraction of the sun's entire output. We can increase that by creating a swarm of solar-power satellites that encircle the sun. First the swarm started out as a ring around the sun along the earth's orbit, rather like the ring-like swarm of communications satellites encircling the earth's equator in geo-synchronous orbit.The article proceeds with the expansion of this ring-like swarm to where the swarm forms a bubble around the star and then finally with the connecting of the swarm into a shell that encircles the sun, thus receiving all of its radiant energy. This shell would then become a Dyson sphere, the final stages of which would be to convert its inner surface into living areas.This idea (and the name -- Freeman Dyson doesn't like that it's named after him) has been developed and used extensively in science fiction, the most popular example being in the Star Trek:TNG episode, Relics, which marked the return of Scotty. Another most famous example is Larry Niven's Ringworld novels in which a ring had been built around a star.------------------------------"Those who fail to learn the lessons of science fiction are doomed to live them."

A large part of the problem is that most of us here have a rather heightened sense of smell which has been developed by years, even decades, of experience. It is a very sad fact that we've encountered many creationists who present themselves as non-creationists and many fundamentalists who present themselves as not being Christians, but it doesn't take long for them to let their sheep's clothing drop and be revealed for what they really are.It's just that by your posts we were picking up that same scent off of you. Do stick around though. Then check out some of the other novels based on a hollow earth. I was introduced to the idea a half century ago by Edgar Rice Burroughs' 1914 At the Earth's Core, which included a polar opening that could be reached by airship (dirigible), though the first novel involved a drilling vehicle that, once it started downward, the protagonists discovered to their dismay could not be steered. The world down there is called Pellucidar and even Tarzan visited there once (yes, that Edgar Rice Burroughs).Edited by dwise1, : Tarzan