Landmark gay marriage trial starts today in California

The supposedly neutral term "SEXUAL ORIENTATION" implies pedophilia. You like neutral terms like "sexual orientation" because they take the onus off homosexuality as a socially undesirable condition, allowing you to call it normal, so I pointed out that there are other "sexual orientations" you might not feel the same way about. There's no need for all the hate talk, YOUR hate talk, I've done no hate talk though you love to say so.

Scripture says we aren't to welcome the Day of the Lord as it will be a horrible time for all, we are to fight evil no matter what, and there is no way to stop the fulfillment of prophecy anyway, although we can hope to put the evils off as long as possible.

In case you haven't noticed, 1) the polygamous practices of the Old Testament were NOT approved by God, and 2) the coming of Christ changed all that, clearly identifying marriage as one husband, one wife. I know you all love to pretend otherwise but it IS a pretense and you are wrong.

What a bunch of contradictory nonsense!You can't stop it, but you should put it off. Its going to rid the world of evil, and you should fight evil, but you shouldn't welcome the ridding of it.Pure bullshit.

Once again, the point about pedophilia was to demonstrate the weasel euphemism "sexual orientation," not equate it with other "sexual orientations."

Right, you of course know a lot better than I do, right? You've studied that part of scripture that says not to welcome the Day of the Lord?

AIDS is overwhelmingly the disease of homosexuality though Political Correctness requires that not be recognized.And homosexuality IS an aberration as clearly the two sexes were designed to fit together. Denying the obvious is necessary to keep up the fiction of homosexuality as a mere sexual preference.

But no one has said that all sexual orientation should be accepted.Edited by jar, : fix quote box

Funny, the impression was certainly given that it is bigotry to oppose a mere, neutral "sexual orientation." Therefore I pointed out that there are some "sexual orientations" that even you all agree aren't so neutral. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I prefer the stuff that Christ taught... you know, the scripture that says to love your neighbor and be a good person and help each other out. But we all know that book-worshiping heathens such as yourself prefer the doom and gloom of the Old Testament. How else can you justify hating gay people? You certainly can do it with Christ's teachings.

First of all I don't hate gay people, and second the New Testament also identifies homosexuality as sin, in more than one place. Along with heterosexual sin and many others.

Fine, I will give you that as a "Sexual Orientation". However, giving you that as the definition does mean that there are some "Sexual Orientations" I would not agree with. Specifically, the ones that involve terrible treatment of those who cannot or did not give informed consent...i.e. pedophilia, rape...but to take the desire to deny these forms of "Sexual Orientation" and extend it to the form of love shared by two fully consenting adults is ludicrous and hateful. You equate Homosexuality with pedophilia like one partner forces him or herself on the other, without consent. This is not the case and merely shows your bigotry.There is a great meme that has been going around with a Biblical picture on it. It has Jesus saying, "Ok, here's an idea. You love them, like I loved you. Make sure you take care of them and don't judge them." Then, someone in the crowd says, "What if they're gay or worship other Gods?" Followed by Jesus', "Did I F***ing stutter?" Everything you have done in this thread has been spewing forth hate. Trying to take the behavior of two consenting adults who love one another and comparing it to a man or woman taking advantage of a child's less formed brain and forcing or manipulating them into sexual behavior is hateful and shows your ignorance of society.You people, the hateful among America, are a disease and your rights should be removed so that you can understand how it can feel to be a pariah. You don't want gay families adopting children, tell your heterosexual friends to stop having children out of wedlock. However, I don't hear you spouting off against the heterosexual sex sins...why, because at least they are "Normal" in your eyes.Oh, and by the way...Normal is quite possibly the most overused and pointless word in the English language. There is no such thing as normal, this word only serves to try and segment and separate society into divisions. We would be better served if we let this idea and word simply die.Now, Faith, stop spreading your hate and allow those who are consenting adults and love one another to live a long and happy life together in marriage. My grandmother was on the wrong side of the Civil Rights movement and my family has talked about her views during that time and how wrong they were. Well, you have a choice now Faith...here is a new civil rights item. You can choose to be on the side of love and allow people to find happiness in this world or you can continue to spit vitriol and hatred and deny consenting adults rights you would gladly give to your "Normals". Where do you think Christianity wants you to side, with love or hate? So far, I think you have chosen wrong.

That all sexual orientations are not equal has never been questioned.Which is why the average American today is more moral than the god that had little Mary knocked up.

The only hate here is coming from you and the rest of my opponents.

Let she who is without sin throw the first stone.