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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Now, if I have my list right (and I certainly may not), the question then is whether or not these things needed to arise simultaneously, or if they could have been advantageous individually. There is no requirement in the Theory of Evolution that any change be advantageous. Changes can be advantageous, neutral or disadvantageous but all three types of change can be passed on as long as the change is not so disadvantageous that it keeps the critter from living long enough to reproduce. Evolution is NOT worse ---> better. Evolution is simply change of time.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
How does it make anything more or less likely and what part does more or less likely have to do with evolution anyway?
There was a list presented. There was a question of whether all the steps would be advantageous. Advantageous is only relevant when it comes to filtering.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Again, traits can jess keep cummulating.
It is only when filtering comes into play that there is any significance and then ONLY when the trait is so detrimental that it keeps the critter from reproducing.
Well, if the evolution of a given trait is too unlikely, then you'll have to look for another explanation for the origin of that trait. Uh, no. Why would I have to look for some other explanation?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
If natural selection is out of the equation, then only traits that can be easily arrived at through a probable combination of mutations will "jess keep cummulating." Utter bullshit. Any changes that happen get passed on whether probable or not.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Nope.
But a change is a change. Something that happens, regardless of how unlikely, happened.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
More utter bullshit.
Of course I can say that because so far that is the only evidence supported method that has been presented.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But so far no such too implausible to have happened scenario has been presented.
Improbable and unrealistic are not synonymous.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yes, really.
What may seem unrealistic may seem very realistic when looking at things like evolution. When you factor in very long times and very large numbers of iterations even the most improbable becomes a near certainty. Guided evolution no matter what funny face or fanciful costume it is dressed in is still simply totally and completely un-evidenced.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Improbable is still irrelevant.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Because there is evidence that it is not impossible and can be explained by the conventional theory and there is NO evidence of any designer or guider.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Perspective, like improbability, is fortunately irrelevant.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Actually, significantly more complex systems could only evolve if the changes were cumulative (meaning that the changes cumulatively added a selective advantage). Nonsense. Advantageous changes don't get selected; seriously disadvantageous changes that prevent reproduction get selected.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Again, yes, some changes may give some critters an advantage BUT only in a very limited sense.
It is only when those critters in a population don't reproduce that a trait gets filter out. Sexual selection is a good example. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yes, I should have been clearer.
See Message 68.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And I responded to them.
see Message 68.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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