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Author Topic:   My Beliefs- GDR
Tangle
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Message 1294 of 1324 (708746)
10-13-2013 6:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1293 by GDR
10-13-2013 5:28 PM


Re: How would you ever know
GDR writes:
So you never plan anything unless you are absolutely certain of the facts that you are basing you plan on.
Well obviously, I, like you, plan on the available facts, then make the best bet. What neither of us do is plan our day based on an un-evidenced belief about what we would like to be true regardless of the facts before us.
You would not plan your picnic on a belief. You, like everyone else on the planet, would look out of the window, look at the forecast and then decide.
What else in your life do you think you do purely on belief?

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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Message 1295 of 1324 (708829)
10-15-2013 3:26 AM


Not sure why this is in the news today because the original study seems to have been published in january, but biologists have been studying empathetic behaviour - consolation - in bonobo apes, finding rather a lot of it, discovering that it's innate and varies according to the physical closeness, age and relatedness to the distressed individual.
BBC - 404: Not Found
Is Tom whispering in bonobo ears too?
Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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Message 1297 of 1324 (708844)
10-15-2013 12:14 PM
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10-15-2013 11:43 AM


GDR writes:
We have already agreed that there may be a genetic copmponent to morality and that there is definitely a social component so I don't know know why you think I'd be surprised by that report.
Just thought you might be interested; but it's good to hear that you now accept the rational conclusion that morality is a naturally occurring phenomenon - so there is no requirement for any more supernatural whispering talk is there?

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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Message 1303 of 1324 (708856)
10-15-2013 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1301 by Phat
10-15-2013 3:13 PM


Re: Reasonable Ramblings
phat writes:
......the Bible has some deep insights into human nature that science is only now beginning to catch up with.
Name one that hasn't been blindingly obvious for thousands of years.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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Message 1314 of 1324 (708946)
10-16-2013 5:33 PM
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10-16-2013 10:37 AM


Re: Reasonable Ramblings
phat writes:
They now know that addictions cannot be easily stopped. The reason is because the brain actually changes. Certain neural pathways are laid down and reinforced...so that to attempt to stop in the middle of the loop is next to impossible.
What?!
There's nothing in that about addiction - it's just the usual religious obsession with sin.
But even if it was about addiction why, ffs, wouldn't they know about it? There's nothing particularly difficult in spotting drunks, obsessives and addicts - the extent of their science was finding the devil to be the cause - clever huh?
Sometimes I think the world is just friggin' bonkers.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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Message 1316 of 1324 (708952)
10-17-2013 2:43 AM
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10-16-2013 7:51 PM


Re: Reasonable Ramblings
Phat writes:
you didnt understand what I was saying...
I rarely do.
Dr.Patrick Carnes is one of the most well respected addictions specialists and his research confirms what was "obvious"...only because of the word of God.
Phat, that is just crazy - that's a description of what someone feels, which is then blamed completely wrongly on sin and evil.
I swear, Tangle...you try so hard to discredit some basic wisdom only because its labeled as sin....do some reading, for crying out loud.
I'm merely pointing out to you the obvious fact that the bible is not a source of any scientific wisdom which was your claim.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

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