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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
If you believed something bad was going to happen to you and you asked me to pray and intercede to prevent it or at least reduce the pain, and I did just what you asked, how would that be extortion?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 374 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
If I believed it because of what you had told me then yes that would be extortion.
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
LOL
Too funny. If it was because not just I told you but rather everyone told you would it still be extortion? How is it extortion?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 374 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
If it was because not just I told you but rather everyone told you would it still be extortion? How is it extortion? Just because it is a well established racket doesn't make it any less wrong. If you offer relief from a hazard that you have created that is extortion.
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Except no one offered relief from a hazard they created.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 374 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
So, in your opinion, it is more like a security company offering relief from you own pre-existing fears.
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Not quite because they do not offer relief, only a service, an attempted intercession.
It's closer to what a defense lawyer does. The person knows that he is guilty and believes he will be judged and asks the lawyer to intercede on his behalf with the hope of a reduced sentence.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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frako Member (Idle past 331 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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Except in this case there are no judges, juries, cops, the lawyer just tells you that they are there and gona punish you if you dont let him speak on your behalf to do that of course he needs money.
Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Again, that is simply not true.
Remember Indulgences involve temporal forgiveness. There you most certainly did find judges. When it comes to Intersession, you may well believe there is no judge but you have no evidence there is not a judge. The person asking for Intercession does know that intercession is needed if there is a judge. The person asking for Intercession knows the reasons it is needed, and they do believe there is a judge and those providing Intersession do provide the service.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Aren't you ignoring the fact that the so called value given is relief from acts that the church has no power to impose. Your church cannot accept money for not
beating you or for not stoning you. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.Richard P. Feynman If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Of course it could.
The church most certainly did have the power and the right to impose penalties. In the case of Indulgences the punishment was seldom stoning. But the penalties the Church might impose could be loss of title, holdings, property or imposition of pilgrimage. AbE: We're wandering far afield from the joke that is Kent Hovind but it is somewhat interesting. Should it move to a new thread? Edited by jar, : see AbE:Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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shalamabobbi Member (Idle past 2875 days) Posts: 397 Joined: |
http://2peter3.com/debate.html
I left an invitation for Kent to participate in a one on one here at EvC. I'll let you know what his response is when he sends it. Notice you can debate him on his website too.
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yenmor Member (Idle past 3681 days) Posts: 145 Joined: |
I don't get it. How is he getting online from jail?
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Shield Member (Idle past 2888 days) Posts: 482 Joined: |
Why wouldn't he? Are U.S. prisoners not usually allowed access to a computer with internet access?
If not, WTF!?
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