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Author Topic:   Which animals would populate the earth if the ark was real?
foreveryoung
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Message 107 of 991 (655114)
03-07-2012 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by Taq
03-06-2012 6:17 PM


I know what genetic bottlenecks are. I know what conditions bring them about. All I am saying is that you are making two assumptions that keeps you from understanding how it could have been a non issue in the past. #1. You assume that evolution has always occurred by the mechanisms observed in laboratories today. #2. You assume that lack of allelic diversity has always been detrimental.
You can reach today's levels of allelic diversity in 200,000 years. Show me where I am wrong. It doesn't take a genome that is ten times larger than today to generate the vast diversity of species we see from a few common ancestors. My evidence? That would be impossible to gather. My reasoning? You can generate a vast amount of diversity simply by turning genes on and off at different times in the womb and in development. It would not have to take generating new alleles to do this. The different alleles would come about later on after thousand of species had already speciated from their common ancestors.

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foreveryoung
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Message 109 of 991 (655116)
03-07-2012 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by Percy
03-07-2012 12:03 PM


Not everything that you consider to be scientifically true are in reality true. Evidence is replicable and available, but is not interpreted the same way universally. I consider the whole world and all the evidence gathered so far by scientists to be evidence for my position.

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foreveryoung
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Message 110 of 991 (655117)
03-07-2012 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by jar
03-07-2012 12:11 PM


Re: Which animals would populate the earth if the ark was real?
jar writes:
If the Biblical flood happened, whether it was 4300 years ago or 200,000 years ago, all of the land animals, birds and almost all living land plants that populate the earth today would show that they went through a genetic bottleneck at the very same time.
Not necessarily. It would only be true, if your initial assumptions about the past are proven to be true. To my estimation of things, the have not been proven to be true. Feel free to prove me wrong.

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foreveryoung
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Message 953 of 991 (709644)
10-28-2013 10:37 PM
Reply to: Message 950 by NoNukes
10-28-2013 9:26 PM


Re: Uniformity assumptions...
That sounds like the following phrase from the princess bride: "I don't think that word means what you think it means".

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