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Author Topic:   If being Christian is so great, why is the music so bad?
Mister Pamboli
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Message 6 of 99 (7093)
03-17-2002 4:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by nator
03-16-2002 6:18 PM


quote:
Originally posted by schrafinator:
I am interested in what Christians have to say about this.
Why is so much of Christian music so bland and pablum-like?

Because most music is bland. Christian music is no different from any other. Perhaps the question you should be asking is why does so little secular music reach the heights of the Saint Matthew Passsion, or Mozart's Requiem, or Haydn's Creation, or Handel's Messiah, or a Palestrina Mass, or a Gaelic Psalm, or a spiritual, or the heartbreaking tenderness of a carol, or (appropriate at this time of year) the Lent prose?

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Mister Pamboli
Member (Idle past 7577 days)
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From: Washington, USA
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Message 8 of 99 (7126)
03-17-2002 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by nator
03-17-2002 8:00 AM


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Originally posted by schrafinator:
Except for the spirituals, all of the music you mention was created some time ago. Some of it, a very very long time ago. This is not what I am talking about. I am talking about contemporary Christian music, of any stripe, minus that to be found in the black churches.
O, I see. Sorry.
There is some great Christian music being written today - Taverner, Gorecki, MacMillan - but I suspect you mean the "popular" style? I have to agree then - most if it is drivel.

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Mister Pamboli
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From: Washington, USA
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Message 11 of 99 (7409)
03-20-2002 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by leekim
03-20-2002 11:50 AM


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Originally posted by leekim:
Art should also be delivered with some semblance of "talent" as well. ... Far too many "artists" today simply create "art" for pure shock value. Great American / Christian artists such as Rockwell or, more currently, Kinkade, produce(d) beautiful pieces which instill emotion.
Not Thomas Kinkade, soi disant "Painter of Light" and mass marketer of "art-based products" as he calls them? I think it is profoundly sad that the religion that inspired Bach and Grunewald should be reduced to Christian rock music and Thomas Kinkade.
It seems as if it is not the world which has lost faith in Christ, but Christianity which has lost faith in its own meaning and emotional power.

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Mister Pamboli
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Message 16 of 99 (7598)
03-22-2002 12:48 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by nator
03-21-2002 7:56 AM


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Originally posted by schrafinator:
I think it should also be mentioned that a great many of the famous "classical" composers who wrote requiems and passions and other religious works were commissioned to do so by rich patrons. Many great European composers (and painters, for that matter) dealt with religious themes because that's where the money was.
Hmmm don't like that argument. It's like saying Sagan, Dawkins, Gould et al were in it for the money and the fame.
Of course there was good money in it - but that doesn't mean there was not also great inspiration. The same applies today - there are very fine musicians indeed, and artists, who make fortunes, but their commitment to their art, as art, need not be lesser for it.

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