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Message 140 of 380 (712656)
12-05-2013 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by Faith
12-05-2013 4:34 PM


Re: 95 theses, Waldensians and Huguenots
Faith, Faith, Faith.
You continue to pervert and misrepresent everything and show your utter ignorance.
Who was Admiral Gaspard de Coligny?
And yet again you simply claim all evil was the RCC and the poor Protestants were just innocents.
What a mockery of reality you continue to create.

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jar
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Message 144 of 380 (712661)
12-05-2013 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by Faith
12-05-2013 6:30 PM


Re: 95 theses, Waldensians and Huguenots
Faith, Faith, Faith.
Do you even read what YOUR sources actually say?
Who was Admiral Gaspard de Coligny?

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jar
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Message 145 of 380 (712662)
12-05-2013 6:48 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by scienceishonesty
12-05-2013 6:02 PM


Re: Some apology
Okay. If you have read them good.
What do they say about the Pope and indulgences?

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jar
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Message 147 of 380 (712664)
12-05-2013 6:57 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by Faith
12-05-2013 6:54 PM


Re: 95 theses, Waldensians and Huguenots
Who was Admiral Gaspard de Coligny?

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jar
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Message 151 of 380 (712670)
12-05-2013 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by Faith
12-05-2013 7:29 PM


Re: 95 theses, Waldensians and Huguenots
Well no Faith, once again you simply post falsehoods. You have not answered any of my questions.
Who was Admiral Gaspard de Coligny?

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jar
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Message 153 of 380 (712672)
12-05-2013 7:48 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by Faith
12-05-2013 7:41 PM


Re: 95 theses, Waldensians and Huguenots
That does not seem to be the case Faith as usual.
Please point me to your post where you explained who Admiral Gaspard de Coligny was?

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jar
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Message 183 of 380 (712769)
12-06-2013 2:39 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by Faith
12-06-2013 2:28 PM


Re: Some apology
I cannot imagine hating particular Protestants; how could they rise to such significance?.

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jar
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Message 201 of 380 (712820)
12-07-2013 10:06 AM
Reply to: Message 200 by Faith
12-07-2013 2:07 AM


Re: apology
As usual.
And you still didn't address the question of who was Admiral Gaspard de Coligny?

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jar
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Message 210 of 380 (712849)
12-07-2013 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 207 by Faith
12-07-2013 1:59 PM


Re: apology
If you had already said that I assume you can provide a link to that post.
Now, yes, he was a Political and Military Huguenot leader. The Huguenots were not just some peacefull religious group, they were a political revolutionary military force.
As is usual, what was called the French Religious Wars were mostly about power, wealth and control.

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jar
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Message 213 of 380 (712853)
12-07-2013 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 212 by Faith
12-07-2013 2:28 PM


Re: apology
I notice you did not present the link to the post where you first explained who Admiral Gaspard de Coligny was.
I don't doubt that the sources you've read only show the Christian Cult of Ignorance propaganda about how peaceful the Protestants were. Try reading some sources that don't lie and that are in at least some touch with reality.

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jar
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Message 215 of 380 (712855)
12-07-2013 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 214 by Faith
12-07-2013 3:25 PM


Re: Huguenots
Having a military and being a political organization is evidence that the Huguenots where not simply a religious body. The French Wars of Religion were political in nature between the French kings and the Bourbons and about who would hold power, wealth and territory.
You need to stop with your simplistic "the Protestants were just good folk persecuted by the Roman Catholic Church" dogma. In fact, the Roman Catholic Church played almost NO part in the French Wars of Religion.
Edited by jar, : add " "

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jar
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Message 218 of 380 (712858)
12-07-2013 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 216 by Faith
12-07-2013 3:52 PM


Re: Huguenots
I'd prefer a little honesty from you.
As I have asked before, I understand you don't actually read the Bible but do you also NOT read all of your supposed support?
From your very own quote:
quote:
The French Wars of Religion (1562—98) is the name of a period of civil infighting and military operations, primarily fought between French Catholics and Protestants (Huguenots). The conflict involved the factional disputes between the aristocratic houses of France, such as the House of Bourbon and House of Guise (Lorraine), and both sides received assistance from foreign sources.
Learn to read what is actually written.
No one denied that religion played a part but the main point was factional and political between the houses of Bourbon and Lorraine.
Remember I am a Protestant and stop posting really stupid shit like "It appears that you'd much prefer that the Huguenots or any Protestants not have had any societal standing or military ability to defend themselves and just be perpetually persecuted as they had been before the Protestant Reformation."
What I prefer is honesty.

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jar
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Message 220 of 380 (712870)
12-07-2013 5:57 PM
Reply to: Message 219 by Faith
12-07-2013 5:21 PM


Re: Huguenots
You are Protestant in name only, jar, and I don't know what you hope to gain by perpetuating that confusing fiction. In discussions like these you are always on the side of the Catholics against the Protestants, ignoring and twisting facts right and left.
More falsehoods and misrepresentation from you Faith, but that seems to be the norm
I have not taken the sides of the Roman Catholics against the Protestants nor twisting facts.
Nor am I Protestant in name only.
What I have said is that your simplistic "Protestant Good, RCC Bad" is simply false and misleading.
What I have pointed out is that the French Wars of Religion were more complex and that the Huguenots were a political and military revolutionary force and that the Roman Catholic Church played almost no part.

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jar
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Message 222 of 380 (712874)
12-07-2013 6:25 PM
Reply to: Message 221 by Faith
12-07-2013 6:16 PM


Re: Huguenots
I even noticed that on the Mandela thread you pretty much say that whatever evils Mandela may have committed (and I have no opinion myself) Andrew Jackson was worse. Typical of you, jar, to imply that an American general was worse than a terrorist (and I'm not saying that's what Mandela was, I don't know, but that is the context in which you said what you said).
No, I said Andrew Jackson was a terrorist, a traitor, a murderer and anti-Democracy.
Please start a topic on it and I'll be glad to try to educate you.
The direct influence of the RCC is often not apparent in historical events, but the fact that Catholics were always -- oh excuse me, make that 95% -- the perpetrators of conflicts with the Protestants certainly shows the influence of Catholic doctrine behind their actions, attitudes they got from their priests and from papal directives and so on.
Again Faith, that is simply not true and in particular not in the case of the French Wars of Religion. You yourself has said that being Catholic is not the same as the Roman Catholic Church. It was a civil war between two power bases in France.

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jar
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Message 246 of 380 (712916)
12-08-2013 8:35 AM
Reply to: Message 225 by Faith
12-07-2013 9:50 PM


Re: Huguenots
The French Wars were fomented by Catholics persecuting Protestants, like all those other incidents, as opposed to your insistence it was just a political thing.
Still more misrepresentation from you Faith, as usual. I have never said that the French Wars of Religion were just political. You need to try actually reading what I have written.
It was religious, and being religious you have the choice of saying that Catholics are naturally evil, or doesn't it seem more likely that they got their incentive from Catholic doctrine through priests down from the Vatican?
Again, those are certainly not the only choices.
Religion, as usual, was simply a part of the conflicts, a tool to persuade the ignorant to enlist and get killed. But the Huguenots were not just peaceful non-violent religious folk, they were a political and military revolutionary party.

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