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Pressie
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Message 76 of 77 (713249)
12-11-2013 8:37 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by DevilsAdvocate
12-10-2013 9:27 AM


DevilsAdvocate writes:
So you are tying vigilante deaths to the ANC?
Not only to the ANC. To a lot of those 'liberation' movements. In the end, vigilante deaths were almost exclusively caused by the ANC and the Inkhata Freedom Party. Those two.
These guys intimidate the other guys with necklacing; the other guys intimidate with guns. And vice versa. In the press these all were attributed to the 'Government'.
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Message 77 of 77 (713274)
12-11-2013 12:39 PM
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12-11-2013 8:37 AM


Not only to the ANC. To a lot of those 'liberation' movements. In the end, vigilante deaths were almost exclusively caused by the ANC and the Inkhata Freedom Party. Those two.
These guys intimidate the other guys with necklacing; the other guys intimidate with guns. And vice versa. In the press these all were attributed to the 'Government'.
Provide evidence. Just saying the majority of vigilante deaths were caused by the ANC does not make it so. Referring to statistics with no attribution to exactly who caused them does not evidence make.
The sources that YOU cite (whether they are correct or not) make the opposite claim than what you are claiming. Your sources claim that the majority of deaths were directly or indirectly caused by the Apartheid government (whether that is true or not). So provide evidence to back up YOUR claim that the majority of these deaths were caused by ANC and anti-Apartheid groups.
I am not claiming that ANC does not have blood on their hands. They do as well as others. However, the Apartheid government and their oppresive regime instigated and spurred this violence on as shown numerous times through all the reports you cite.
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