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We all keep going round and round on these things to no avail. Y'all keep pointing out the impossible while Faith keeps insisting on a mechanism. Every time you point out an impossible thing resulting from one of Faith's delusions she comes up with another mechanism to explain the thing. And no matter what impossibility results from that mechanism there is yet another. She has impossible mechanisms nested within impossible mechanisms layered upon impossible mechanisms and the process is not going to stop.There are so many traps she has set for herself she cannot keep up. We cannot expect the poor girl to continue to pull these things out of her eh air every time so she has to resort to something like: No clue as to what it might be, whether it is feasible or not, possible or not, but it has to be there.The reason, of course, is that Faith's faith is quite weak and tenuously hangs from the gossamer thread of biblical literalism. Any discrepancy, no matter how small, will bring the inerrant bible, thus her faith and her very reason for existing, crashing down around her ears. This she cannot allow to happen so no matter how impossible an explanation is, it must be true to keep the bible true. If she cannot pull an explanation from ... the air then there are the blanket there has to be a mechanical principle, there has to be a mechanism, there has to be a way articles of (tenuous) faith.So why do we all continue like this? You, me, Faith, all of us why?There is, of course, an answer we like to use which brings me to the real reason for this post. All the above was mere verbose window dressing so I can say that I am keeping on topic with a straight face.The reason we do this, knowing neither is going to sway the other regardless of logic, faith or strength of argument, is for the lurkers; that silent majority hidden in the clouds of the internet looking down upon these proceedings gleaning some useful information and understanding to benefit their own thoughts and outlook. We do this to sway Them, to inform Them, to educate and inspire Them.Except Them aren't there.I have two masters degrees. One is in Economics. That has helped me in my professional life but doesn't do much for me in this discussion. I only bring it up, in addition to being verbose, to brag on myself even though I know that in this community the academic achievements as well as the non-degreed expertise represented here far out weighs my meager effort. But, I also have a masters in Computer Science, specifically Database Design in Automated Systems. Yeah, it's an old archaic degree but this was 40 some years ago when the most powerful computers were 2 meg, 1.7 mip boxes the size of an Olds 88 with a 30 meg 11-platter disk drive the size of a dishwasher cabled in, and the most popular program language then also began with a C but had OBOL instead of a + or a ++ after it.Still, I have, somewhat, kept up with the state of the technology so I knew that such things existed but the full realization did not hit me until recently.Instead of Them watching us, living and learning as we all assumed, what is hidden in the clouds of the internet looking down upon these proceedings are Searchbots. Thousands of them. Their goal is to index every word and image of every page on the net and then pack it all into those search engine databases like Google, NSA, Bing and that GoDuckDuckGoDuckGo thing.There are so many of them now that they have pushed all of the lurkers off the net. At the top of this page you see the line with the number of folks now online in this domain. Right now it reads 207 Online (10 members, 197 visitors).Of those 197 visitors fully 344 of them are mindless searchbots (yeah, that's how insidious they are) indexing away without any comprehension of anything we say here. And there is always, these days, the possibility that some of our members are really searchbots in disguise.Straggler? You there?We know Tanypteryx is one cause that bot screwed up and indexed its finds here (Message 23) instead of in a search engine database.I wouldn't be surprised if Crash Frog got resurrected, again, as a searchbot! (for those of you who haven't been here for long that's kind of an inside joke, sorry)Anyway the searchbots have taken control of the cloud and destroyed all lurkerdom, all so when you put some useful word (evolution) into a search you can get wholesale prices on evolution over here and the widest selection of evolution over there.So now we are engaged in a struggle in this and other threads to win debates and to change the minds of those active participants who will never be changed, we know will never be changed, all for the sake of those who are not there, are not listening, are not watching because they have all been bot out.God, what a long fuckin' way to go for such a stu*id joke.Edited by AZPaul3, : forgot all about my st*pid banned word.Edited by AZPaul3, : itallics

Your calculator has not kept up with the technology. More than all of them. Pishaw! Me?

Sure. And you are not one of them.You say you worship your god but in actuality it is your bible that you worship. You worship the literal words on the page rather than the ideas that inspired them. Your trinity has become bible, verse and the holy scripture. Instead of a golden calf your idol is a gold-gilded book. You have replaced the cross with a book stand.You are not a Christian. You are a Biblican.Edited by AZPaul3, : titleEdited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

The tone was not nasty, my dearest, but real. You have shown your devotion to the book and your worship of the printed page in almost every post you have ever made on this forum. You are a Biblican.A believer of the bible believes in the message of the bible not the literal words.When your bible says:And God said, Let there be light, and there was light.Is this to be taken as literal? There was no language to be spoken, there was yet no time in which to speak, there were no syllables to be uttered. There was no one and nothing to hear.The literalist, the Biblican, would say, "yes," because the words are there on the page. The believer would forgo the literal and understand the message; that the timeless incorporeal creator, by its will, what Augustine called the Divine Wisdom, brought light into existence, the literal speaking of such sounds being absurd and thus metaphor.The believer would understand the message of the flud story. The anguish of the creation gone wicked. The vow to destroy all then to change that for the light of one righteous man. What is the deeper meaning there, Faith? You are so steeped in your worship of the words that the meaning here escapes you, doesn't it.The symbolism of the ark and its cargo floating gently on the turbulent waters of the storm. And why the 40 days and 40 nights, Faith? That is a recurring theme in the bible. Why is that? The Biblican cannot see the meanings of these for want of the literalism.And when the flud was done god made a covenant and made the sign of that covenant. Literally? Do you literally believe that the sign had never been seen before on this planet? Or was it, again, the divine wisdom adopting a natural occurrence as the symbol of a promise assuring all peacefully whenever again the rains came.To the believer, Faith, the whole flud story is symbolism of man's descent into wickedness, the saving grace of righteousness and the promise of the covenant. You claim you are a christian, Faith. What purpose does the covenant serve? What did it foretell?You so worship the literal story, looking to the strata for a basis of belief, that the symbolism, the real meaning, eludes you.You idolize the very words. And as a supposed christian this is your greatest sin. De Genesi ad litteram, my lady.Why does an atheist have to teach you this? Edited by AZPaul3, : clarity.