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Author Topic:   Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham
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Message 6 of 824 (715389)
01-04-2014 10:08 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Coyote
01-04-2014 4:30 PM


Re: The "debate" has already occurred
P.T. Barnum would be proud!
Indeed.
This is what I cannot comprehend. Nye is not a stu*id (god damned censorship crap) person. Why is he giving these fools an opportunity in his spotlight? It doesn't matter what either side says (and in this community we already know what each side will say and use to counter), just lending his name to this farce gives a level of credibility to Ham and company that is not anywhere close to being deserved.
If Nye has objections to Ham's response to his initial video then Nye, IMHO, should respond with another video where he can take Ham apart point by point without the constant distractions of that showy master charlatan.
Why is he doing this?

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Message 8 of 824 (715395)
01-05-2014 12:21 AM
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01-05-2014 12:08 AM


Re: The "debate" has already occurred
Maybe this time will be different...
I'm not sure it matters. Just by being there, whether Nye does well or not, lends a veneer of legitimacy to Ham and creationism; undeserved, unwarranted and just plain bad regardless of performance.
And Nye must know this. Why is doing this? Did he get himself caught in a performance trap and now it's too late to back out?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Message 11 of 824 (715468)
01-05-2014 7:14 PM
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01-05-2014 10:14 AM


Re: The "debate" has already occurred
The "public" is not at the Creation Museum. It is, however, audience to YouTube. That is where the larger younger audience for Nye's teachings can be most effective, not giving aid and comfort to Ham in Ham's own home.
As Percy has already pointed out each side will claim victory. The videos will be put up on YouTube for all to judge.
Then, and you all know this is going to happen, Ham and company will put up edited videos showing Nye/science at his worse and Ham/creation as the shining star.
If you are correct and he is trying to teach, Nye needs to improve his delivery and the class of his videos, which he very well knows how to do, and teach through that medium. That is the biggest and most important audience Nye can get. Going to Kentucky, IMHO, is a trap and nothing good can come from it.

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Message 17 of 824 (715517)
01-06-2014 11:59 AM
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01-06-2014 10:46 AM


Re: The "debate" has already occurred
Maybe we could get Goofy to debate the Hamburglar.
That actually might work as a Plan B. I think RAZD's honking horn idea deserves first consideration.

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Message 703 of 824 (749693)
02-07-2015 4:22 PM
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02-07-2015 4:06 PM


I'm not sure why Nwr thinks Ham has a case...
Read his first sentence then read his last sentence.

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