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Col2v8
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Message 1 of 142 (716527)
01-18-2014 2:42 PM


Are there any scientific papers/studies by evolutionist, that give any explanation as to how biological evolution (natural selection) first 'knew' that there was such a thing as light in the universe, in order to go on an develop 'light-sensitivity' in such a manner as to manipulate that light? I'm not on about evolution of the eye, but how light was even known to exist in the first place?
The same can be said of sound. When did natural selection first 'know' that vibrations through a planets atmosphere could also be manipulated in such a manner as to allow the 'emerging creature' to hear sound.
And finally, also of aroma, sense of smell, same applies, how?

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Col2v8
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Message 9 of 142 (716552)
01-18-2014 10:24 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Dr Adequate
01-18-2014 5:32 PM


Is there one definitive answer to what is 'Natural Selection'?
If it doesn't literally know anything, how does it know how to select in a natural manner?
Perhaps the question has to be what is Natural? What is Selection?

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Col2v8
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Message 13 of 142 (716567)
01-19-2014 9:16 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Coyote
01-18-2014 10:54 PM


dice?
...dice never go on to produce creatures, (us at least) who do know? So its moot what they don't know.
I honestly don't understand your logic here, but what I do grasp makes for a cold chill at what life is being reduced to... namely, that life is something that has happened, but which also might not have happened.
My root position is that life is given, and that evolution is a non-starter...
remember those dice, they needed someone to roll them in the first place.
thanks for your post
Edited by Col2v8, : fix a typo

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Col2v8
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Message 15 of 142 (716570)
01-19-2014 9:23 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by AZPaul3
01-18-2014 11:17 PM


Re: To Know Or Not To Know
Light impacts a cell...
well is this not what I am on about... namely how did a cell evolve and organise itself in the first place to know that light impacting on it could be used as energy... how do you get the stages going ever towards this immense sophistication and manipulation of light.
thanks for your post

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Col2v8
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Message 18 of 142 (716574)
01-19-2014 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by jar
01-19-2014 9:17 AM


Re: Imagine
Well, if I were one who could see, then the survivors would be as many blind people as I could feed, and myself.
Is your logic here deeply disturbing or what? I may have missed your point; but my point is that the very reason we humans want to help is evidence against the blind-non-forward-thinking-planning, very nature, of evolution!
If evolution is completely indifferent to morality (indeed, it doesn't care that it doesn't even care) then why has it gone on produce creatures (us at least) that do!
Where would I (a machine for gene survival) ever get a notion in the first place to help, if the very giving of that help might infringe on my own gene survival. (blind people will eat MY food) - Maybe helping is a bad trait that will be worked out of human evolution, what a despicable thought! But evolutionary theory allows this to be a reasonable possibility!!!
My root position, is that life is given, and that evolution is a non-starter!
thanks for your post

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Col2v8
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Message 27 of 142 (716651)
01-19-2014 10:39 PM


and that's it
I have discovered something much worse than going around in cycles in debates about Evolution v Creation - keeping track of replies to an original post -- !!!
I am very new to forums, and this is not for me, after just one day, I cannot keep track of who to respond to, who replied to what, just don't have the time for one thing!
Its a shame, but I cannot commit to this, and will be cancelling my membership.
thank you to all who made a reply, that I did read!

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