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NoNukes
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Message 631 of 759 (714274)
12-21-2013 12:55 AM
Reply to: Message 630 by Dr Adequate
12-20-2013 8:35 PM


Re: Utah
quote:
At oral argument, the State attempted to distinguish post-menopausal women from gay men and lesbians by arguing that older women were more likely to find themselves in the position of caring for a grandchild or other relative.
I believe we've heard similar arguments from a poster here. I imagine it does sound sillier in court.
A: No, no, no.
B: No?
A: Well yes, of course, but we don't say that in public.
ROFL
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.
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If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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Message 632 of 759 (714277)
12-21-2013 1:15 AM
Reply to: Message 630 by Dr Adequate
12-20-2013 8:35 PM


Re: Utah
There is months' worth of schadenfreude piling up out there!

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Stile
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Message 633 of 759 (717019)
01-23-2014 11:03 AM


VA AG - BAM!!
New Virginia Attorney General Drops Defense of Gay Marriage Ban
I think he's newly in power for about a month or so?
A pretty powerful thing to say:
quote:
While Virginia has a storied place in the founding of our nation and has contributed to the development of our democracy, it has also been on the wrong side of court cases involving school desegregation, interracial marriage, and state-supported single-sex education, Mr. Kelly said. He said Mr. Herring planned to say at a news conference Thursday morning, It’s time for Virginia to be on the right side of the law, and the right side of history.
I hope it sticks...

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Message 634 of 759 (717078)
01-23-2014 8:05 PM
Reply to: Message 633 by Stile
01-23-2014 11:03 AM


Re: VA AG - BAM!!
While Virginia has a storied place in the founding of our nation and has contributed to the development of our democracy, it has also been on the wrong side of court cases involving school desegregation, interracial marriage, and state-supported single-sex education.
Good god, what is happening in this country?! Virginia, home of the Confederacy now embracing them negroes and them homos, violating their conservative god given values. It's like the whole conservative march backward from reality is coming to a screeching halt!
God's going to punish this nation hard. He's going to take his christian people out of this country and leave it to them atheists and liberals.
We can only hope.

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Message 635 of 759 (717092)
01-24-2014 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 634 by AZPaul3
01-23-2014 8:05 PM


Re: VA AG - BAM!!
Just to point out.. Loving v. Virginia was the case that overturned the restriction on interracial marriage.

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Theodoric
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Message 636 of 759 (717097)
01-24-2014 9:51 AM
Reply to: Message 635 by ramoss
01-24-2014 9:09 AM


Re: VA AG - BAM!!
But that was a federal case brought against the state of Virginia. So AZPaul3's point still stands.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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NoNukes
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Message 637 of 759 (760872)
06-26-2015 11:15 AM


Finally Settled.. Supreme Court allows adults to marry whoever they want!!
I knew if felt funny outside for some reason...
Supreme Court rules states must allow same-sex marriage
quote:
Supreme Court rules states must allow same-sex marriage
Washington (CNN)In a landmark opinion, the Supreme Court ruled Friday that states cannot ban same-sex marriage, establishing a new civil right and handing gay rights advocates a victory that until very recently would have seemed unthinkable.
The 5-4 ruling had Justice Anthony Kennedy writing for the majority with the four liberal justices. Each of the four conservative justices wrote their own dissent.
The far-reaching decision settles one of the major civil rights fights of this era -- one that has rapidly evolved in the minds of the American pubic and its leaders, including President Barack Obama. He struggled publicly with the issue and ultimately embraced same-sex marriage in the months before his 2012 re-election.
The decision affirmed growing public support in the U.S. for gay marriage, with about two-thirds of Americans now in favor. And it comes as gay rights groups have seen gay marriage bans fall rapidly in recent years, with the number of states allowing gay marriage swelling most recently to 37 -- that is, until this ruling.
I'm just waiting to see what Republican hopeful will do a "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever" type George Wallace speech and pretty much guarantee that he becomes politically irrelevant by the time 2016 rolls around.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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Message 638 of 759 (760893)
06-26-2015 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 637 by NoNukes
06-26-2015 11:15 AM


Re: Finally Settled.. Supreme Court allows adults to marry whoever they want!!
Well it was inevitable. Lots of Christians now facing abuse of all sorts including very likely jail time.

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Message 639 of 759 (760894)
06-26-2015 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 638 by Faith
06-26-2015 11:56 AM


Re: Finally Settled.. Supreme Court allows adults to marry whoever they want!!
Faith writes:
Lots of Christians now facing abuse of all sorts including very likely jail time.
Only the criminals Faith. But don't criminals belong in jail?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 640 of 759 (760896)
06-26-2015 12:05 PM
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06-26-2015 12:01 PM


Re: Finally Settled.. Supreme Court allows adults to marry whoever they want!!
Right, and Civil Rights protestors were criminals put in jail too, and Christian pastors in Communist countries were made criminals and put in jail, beaten and murdered as well, lots of criminals in this world made criminals by evil laws over the centuries and subjected to abuse. It finally came to America, now we can suffer like our brothers and sisters in the rest of history and the world.

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Message 641 of 759 (760897)
06-26-2015 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 640 by Faith
06-26-2015 12:05 PM


Re: Finally Settled.. Supreme Court allows adults to marry whoever they want!!
Faith writes:
... and Christian pastors in Communist countries were made criminals and put in jail....
Did they have to share cells with the homosexuals who were also put in jail?

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Message 642 of 759 (760898)
06-26-2015 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 640 by Faith
06-26-2015 12:05 PM


Re: Finally Settled.. Supreme Court allows adults to marry whoever they want!!
As long as it makes you happy all is right with the world.
But don't pretend it is a matter of being a Christian because it it is not. That is simply a cheap trick to try to justify bigotry and hate.
It is not Christians being sanctioned but bigoted criminals.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 643 of 759 (760899)
06-26-2015 12:10 PM
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06-26-2015 12:08 PM


Re: Finally Settled.. Supreme Court allows adults to marry whoever they want!!
If they were they would have been kind to them and prayed for them.

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Message 644 of 759 (760900)
06-26-2015 12:11 PM
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06-26-2015 12:09 PM


Re: Finally Settled.. Supreme Court allows adults to marry whoever they want!!
Bigoted criminals are of course rightly subject to every kind of abuse, it's all a matter of what you call people isn't it.

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Message 645 of 759 (760901)
06-26-2015 12:18 PM
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06-26-2015 12:10 PM


Re: Finally Settled.. Supreme Court allows adults to marry whoever they want!!
Faith writes:
If they were they would have been kind to them and prayed for them.
I'm glad to hear it.
Did you get my point at all? That homosexuals tend to be at the front of the line for persecution? Even ahead of Christians? Because it's often the Christians who are doing the persecuting?

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