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DrJones*
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Message 65 of 142 (717242)
01-25-2014 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by AndrewPD
01-25-2014 12:07 PM


These kind of mental state type entities seem to be inexplicably ruled out in evolution
they're ruled out because we don't have any evidence for them

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DrJones*
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Message 73 of 142 (717256)
01-25-2014 2:16 PM
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01-25-2014 1:40 PM


Have you not had thoughts, dreams, imaginations and ideas?
Sure I have, now tell me how you would test for a thought causing evolution. How would you determine if a dream caused an earthquake?
You notion of evidence appears to be if I can't see it doesn't exist.
Not true at all.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 76 of 142 (717260)
01-25-2014 2:30 PM
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01-25-2014 2:23 PM


I mentioned in the case of Henry Ford that his thoughts causally led to the creation of car.
Henry Ford didn't invent the car, his main contribution was the use of assembly line manufacturing.
Just because we can't explain it doesn't mean mental causation doesn't happen.
No one is arguing that my thoughts don't eventually cause my limbs to move. The thing is we can measure an electrical impulse travelling from my brain, through my nerves and to the muscles that control my limbs.
Show me how you'd determine if a thought caused an earthquake.
Handel's Messiah is a translation of his mental musical landscape being translated into a musical score.
Yes we have examples of human though creating works of art, or imagination leading to technology. Show me how'd you determine if imagination caused a snow storm.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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