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Author Topic:   How the NT quotes Tanach texts
ringo
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Message 16 of 61 (717756)
01-31-2014 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Faith
01-31-2014 3:33 AM


Re: OT must be understood through the NT
Faith writes:

The miraculous context is the future prophetic context and "Immanuel" in that context refers to its meaning, "God with us," which is a description of Messiah.


"Context" means "within the text". Outside sources such as the New Testament are not context. Even if they correctly explicate the text, they are not context.

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Message 36 of 61 (717872)
02-02-2014 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Dawn Bertot
02-01-2014 9:43 PM


Re: OT must be understood through the NT
Dawn Bertot writes:

So your unwarrented and unreasonable rejection of the miraculous....


I'm not rejecting the miraculous. I'm just pointing out what context means. You're welcome to use the New Testament to formulate your view of the Old Testament. You're also welcome to use C.S. Lewis or the funny papers. You just can't call them context.

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Message 41 of 61 (717950)
02-03-2014 10:41 AM
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02-02-2014 11:54 PM


Re: OT must be understood through the NT
Dawn Bertot writes:

When you say you dont reject the miraculous, does this mean you dont doubt it or you believe it?


It means I haven't said anything about the miraculous. All I've talked about in this thread is the meaning of English words.

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