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Topic: Is religion good for us?
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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archaeologist writes: until you people start factoring in the fact that once you remove religion, especially christianity, ytou remove all morals and the need to be good. let me cite some historical examples: 1. the rape of nanking 2. the comfort women of korea 3. the japanese from let's say 1890s to 1945 4. dr. megeles and his fellow nazi scientists 5. the gestapo 6. the nazis 7. stalin and his purges 8. lenin and his ruthlessness 9. communist russia 10 mao 11 communist china and the list goes on...religion isn't he problem...well christianity isn't the problem... it is those men and women who decide not to follow Christ and seek fame, power, control et al, and become very corrupted (but this last part is not limited to world leaders, it takes place on the local level as well as evidenced in the prayer/murder thread) I'm sorry but once again you simply post falsehoods and irrelevancies. The Nazi's were Christian. That is fact. The Comfort Women of Korea were no different than what was not just condoned but commanded in the Bible.
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Judges 21:10-24 (New International Version) 10 So the assembly sent twelve thousand fighting men with instructions to go to Jabesh Gilead and put to the sword those living there, including the women and children. 11 "This is what you are to do," they said. "Kill every male and every woman who is not a virgin." 12 They found among the people living in Jabesh Gilead four hundred young women who had never slept with a man, and they took them to the camp at Shiloh in Canaan. 13 Then the whole assembly sent an offer of peace to the Benjamites at the rock of Rimmon. 14 So the Benjamites returned at that time and were given the women of Jabesh Gilead who had been spared. But there were not enough for all of them. 15 The people grieved for Benjamin, because the LORD had made a gap in the tribes of Israel. 16 And the elders of the assembly said, "With the women of Benjamin destroyed, how shall we provide wives for the men who are left? 17 The Benjamite survivors must have heirs," they said, "so that a tribe of Israel will not be wiped out. 18 We can't give them our daughters as wives, since we Israelites have taken this oath: 'Cursed be anyone who gives a wife to a Benjamite.' 19 But look, there is the annual festival of the LORD in Shiloh, to the north of Bethel, and east of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem, and to the south of Lebonah." 20 So they instructed the Benjamites, saying, "Go and hide in the vineyards 21 and watch. When the girls of Shiloh come out to join in the dancing, then rush from the vineyards and each of you seize a wife from the girls of Shiloh and go to the land of Benjamin. 22 When their fathers or brothers complain to us, we will say to them, 'Do us a kindness by helping them, because we did not get wives for them during the war, and you are innocent, since you did not give your daughters to them.' " 23 So that is what the Benjamites did. While the girls were dancing, each man caught one and carried her off to be his wife. Then they returned to their inheritance and rebuilt the towns and settled in them. 24 At that time the Israelites left that place and went home to their tribes and clans, each to his own inheritance.
Have you ever even read the Bible? But we don't have to look that far to find even more examples of the evil of Christianity. Just look at all the shrines and sacred places in the Americas that have been desecrated by Christians, the native children taken from their families, their names changed, there language and customs forbidden. Look at the very simple fact that the US has never lived up to a single treaty we made with the Native Americans. Must you always misrepresent Christianity?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 82 of 181 (577187)
08-27-2010 12:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 81 by dronestar
08-27-2010 12:22 PM
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Re: Religion = Bonbons
dronestar writes: Well, of course. But now your current argument is swaying off the religious topic. Let me re-ask: if there is only a finite amount of time and money for studies and learning, which would you rather have children learn/memorize:? a. skills in critical thinking b. religious dogma False dichotomy alert. The two are not mutually exclusive nor are the choices limited to just those two items. Further, religious education does not equal learning dogma.
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 89 of 181 (577214)
08-27-2010 4:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 88 by dronestar
08-27-2010 4:10 PM
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Re: Religion = Bonbons
dronestar writes: Another way to say this is: to solve the worlds problems we cannot afford the risk of using any less than "100%" of our critical thinking skills. To subtract our critical thinking capacity ANY percentage, would "necessarily" cause us to be at the very least, at risk. Can we agree on this? Nope, can't agree to that.
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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archaeologist writes: you may think you are a good person but you need to compare yourself with the sandard--Jesus and God-- then see where you stack up. I do not destroy peoples businesses nor kill their livestock nor do I take money from the treasury to buy sweet smelling oils for myself. Have you ever actually read the Bible?
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 134 of 181 (714974)
12-30-2013 2:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 133 by Phat
12-30-2013 12:08 PM
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Re: Solutions for Somali Pirates
It would certainly be stupid to send drones after the pirates.
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 136 of 181 (714981)
12-30-2013 6:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 135 by Phat
12-30-2013 6:36 PM
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Re: Solutions for Somali Pirates
How do you confirm they are pirates? Why not instead build infrastructure, improve health care, create jobs, sanction the oil companies until they work to promote jobs, health care, education and infrastructure on the west coast. That is an investment.
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 138 of 181 (715019)
12-31-2013 11:55 AM
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Reply to: Message 137 by Phat
12-31-2013 11:51 AM
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Re: Solutions for Somali Pirates
Well, yes.
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 140 of 181 (715036)
12-31-2013 4:50 PM
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Reply to: Message 139 by Phat
12-31-2013 4:37 PM
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Re: Solutions for Somali Pirates
someone should do an audit to see if its cheaper to blow them up than it is to educate and eventually compete with them. And you really expect that ignorance like that should be paid for by someone else dying? Pitiful.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 144 of 181 (720205)
02-20-2014 8:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 141 by Phat
01-02-2014 7:59 AM
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Re: Solutions for Somali Pirates
all im saying is that this whole idea that a bunch of poor folks can become greedy and have no regard for the property of others and then we are supposed to comfort the poor babies by investing our tax dollars (which we need ourselves, by the way) into fixing up their country. I say that we should treat them like the criminals they are. Think Phat. Pirates are treated like criminals. No one says that "we are supposed to comfort the poor babies by investing our tax dollars (which we need ourselves, by the way) into fixing up their country"; what is said is that enabling folk to find careers other than piracy makes economic, moral and political sense.
Dont you understand what will happen to the U.S. middle class if we build the whole world up to compete on equal footing? Of course I do. We will either compete successfully or fail.
Our tax dollars should be used on our citizens first. period. And that is what I am suggesting. Investing in infrastructure, education, health care and creating jobs is cheaper than decade long wars.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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