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Phat
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Message 5 of 47 (720559)
02-25-2014 8:59 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Eliyahu
02-25-2014 8:48 AM


Judaism and Critical Thinking
You must be a prophet! I DO need stronger glasses.
I have been reading some of what you write here at EvC and though I don't necessarily agree with your beliefs, have come to respect your intelligence. You seem to back up much of your belief with scripture---which is commendable, and although at first I feared you to be a Jehovahs Witness..now see that you are of the Jewish faith. Can I ask you within your faith are you conservative(Orthodox) or are you Reformed or are you Reconstructionist? Or....have you placed yourself in a category yet?

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Phat
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Message 7 of 47 (720599)
02-25-2014 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Stile
02-25-2014 10:09 AM


Re: Solid Walls
Stile writes:
There is, however, a reason to believe that God does not exist -> the fact that nothing seems to require God.
If you built a robot, a radio, or just about anything that you could assemble, "it" would not require you around either. It would operate quite well on its own for a time.
Imagine now that you were a Creator like God and, hypothetically, you created(either directly or indirectly) humanity. It is true that at the present time they do not need you. It may well be, however, that they may find a point in the future where they do need you.
Stile writes:
Quantum mechanics are a fact, yes. But jumping to a "mental universe" just because things are not solid as you previously thought... with no other reason to use the term "mental" in any way... with no evidence to suggest any sort of consciousness within the universe apart from known humans and animals... that's silly. And that's what's "not talked about."
But it's not laughed away because it's not desired.
It's ridiculed because there's no evidence pointing towards that conclusion in any way.
This reminds me of a scripture in Hebrews...
NIV writes:
Heb 11:3-- By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
Sounds a bit like atoms to me. They are invisible. Just a thought....carry on

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