|
Register | Sign In |
|
QuickSearch
Summations Only | Thread ▼ Details |
Member (Idle past 365 days) Posts: 438 From: Tempe, Az. Joined: |
|
Thread Info
|
|
|
Author | Topic: Arizona: Showing America how to avoid thinking since 1912 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
CS, have you met Mr. Rand Paul? Never heard of him.
He also thought that bad publicity would force these businesses to close. Didn't really work out that way, did it? Back then? Of course not. Today? For sure it would work. For one, there's plenty of other options for people. For two, most people today do not tolerate discrimination. For three, we can instantly communicate to an enormous amount of people which businesses to boycott. Haven't you seen all the shit happening because of Yelp reviews? There really is no comparison to the Civil Rights era. Like, at all.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
|
There are such things as what is right for society and what stands constitutional muster.
This law back fired on the bigots because society has reached the point that as a whole we do not countenance overt state sanctioned bigotry. I know that bigots are going to go kicking and screaming, but you will go. Society has matured a lot in the last 10 years on issues of race, sexual orientation and immigrants. These are baby steps but strong steps forcing the bigots further to the margins of society. The problem with them being pushed to the margins is their final death throes have a good chance of being very disruptive and violent. The SPLC has recently reported hate groups are declining but are getting more violent.
SourceFacts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
|
Right, smear basic moral attitudes of Christians with ... But it isn't basic moral attitudes based on Christianity -- evidence: not all Christians believe it's wrong to be gay and many Christian churches preform gay weddings. What it is, Faith, is a bunch of bigots that use their religion as a crutch to justify their bigotry to themselves. If you want to see persecution of Christians go to Iraq ... where people are being killed for their beliefs. You live in a society that allows freedom of religion, and that means you have the freedom to practice your beliefs without being discriminated against because of them -- to get that right you allow others the same right to practice their beliefs without being discriminated against because of them. Christianity is not singled out for persecution, but it also isn't allowed to persecute others.
... a common tactic of bigots ... The last time I checked, being in favor of all people enjoying equal rights under the law was not a definition of bigotry. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
|
Why shouldjn't someone who wants to open a business have the right to take whatever customers they WANT to take? That is basic freedom. No it isn't. That is a bizarre libertarian fantasy of how things should be. Funny how people like you want all the pluses of government but don't want to have to follow any laws you don't like.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
|
You forgot the part where the ones who do expose themselves for who they are and the rest of us get to make them go out of business. And you forgot the part where we don't do our shopping in the backwoods of red states anyway.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
|
Right, smear basic moral attitudes of Christians with racism, that's all it takes. The current attitudes towards sexual preference are no different than racism.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Those of us who believe the Bible is the inspired inerrant word of God will choose to die rather than be forced to do something that violates it. Apparently that's all right with you. Welcome to the USSA.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
|
RAZD writes: The last time I checked, being in favor of all people enjoying equal rights under the law was not a definition of bigotry. Well said!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Right. That's how evil gets defined as good and good as evil. Welcome to the USSA. Some "sexual preferences," need I point out, would be condemned by even you.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
|
For two, most people today do not tolerate discrimination. It is so widely tolerated that a pro-discrimination bill passed the state legislature in Arizona, and the same type of bill is being considered in many other states.
There really is no comparison to the Civil Rights era. Like, at all. Actually, it is more like the pre-Civil rights era when segregation was first considered and then enacted.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
|
Right. That's how evil gets defined as good and good as evil. Welcome to the USSA. Some "sexual preferences," need I point out, would be condemned by even you. If I condemn pedophilia, does that mean that others are justified in condemning inter-racial marriages?
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NoNukes Inactive Member |
going to give up their businesses and go to prison. Well no. Why are you talking about anyone going to prison? The bill simply protects you from civil suit. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Those of us who believe the Bible is the inspired inerrant word of God will choose to die rather than be forced to do something that violates it. Please cite the verse where it says that you are not to do business with homosexuals.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Today? For sure it would work. Well, if what you say is true, then anti-discrimination laws would merely mandate what's going to happen anyway --- like passing a law stipulating that the Sun should rise in the East. But then where's the harm in such a law? It wastes a tiny quantity of paper?
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
So we go out of business then and have to live on the streets. Same difference.
|
|
|
Do Nothing Button
Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved
Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024