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Eliyahu
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Message 1 of 47 (720554)
02-25-2014 2:09 AM


Bs'd
"Know therefore today, and take it to your heart, that Y-H-W-H, He is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other."
Deut 4:39
"You were shown these things so that you might know that Y-H-W-H is God; besides him there is nothing."
Deut 4:35
Only God exists.
Besides Him there is nothing.
And when I say nothing I mean NOTHING.
Of course there are always obstructionists who will claim that there is a whole universe filled with all kind of things big and small, and that therefore there do exist things beside God.
To them I say: There is NOTHING except for God.
And what about the whole physical world? The real solid tangible material world?
Well, that's just an illusion.
We are living in a matrix. We only THINK there is a physical world. In reality that is only an illusion, a figment of our imagination. A fata morgana.
Let's take a closer look at that supposed "real world". Take matter, for instance iron. That is made up of atoms, which are made up of a nucleus of protons and neutrons, with circling around it electrons. When we enlarge the nucleus to say a diameter of 4 inches, like an orange, then the electrons are circling around it in a distance of 4 miles.
And in between is nothing. Also not air, because that is something, but totally nothing.
And that means that something like iron, with a very solid feel to it, is 99.9999999999999% nothing.
And that makes a big difference.
In one shot we are rid of 99.9999999999999% of the material world.
However, we are still stuck with the remaining 0.0000000000001%.
But it turns out, that that remnant exists only as matter, something physical, as long as it is observed. The moment it is not observed, it changes into a wave, and no longer exists as a particle.
And that not only raises questions about the essence of matter, but also questions like: "How does dead matter know it is observed?"
People much smarter and much better educated than me, concluded from this that the universe is a mental entity, and not a physical entity.
Here is a youtube which in simple language explains the basics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_tNzeouHC4
Here is the same story, but now brought to you in a more complicated way, by a professor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXvAla2y9wc
In the first video it is explained that observation decides the state of the electron; particle or wave, and that when you install a detector, that the electron will start to behave like a particle, and not anymore like a wave.
But they forgot to tell, that when the information about the electron, stored in the detector, is deleted before the electron hits the farthest screen which makes it visible, that it then again starts to behave like a wave.
In 2005 an article appeared in one of the most respected, if not THE most respected, peer reviewed scientific journal, "Nature", which speaks about the mental universe.
That can be read here, if you give them your credit card number: The mental Universe | Nature
Here excerpts of the article can be found: Science is a method, not a position: The Mental Universe
Here a few excerpts:
"Physicists shy from the truth because the truth is so alien to everyday physics. A common way to evade the mental Universe is to invoke ‘decoherence’ the notion that ‘the physical environment’ is sufficient to create reality, independent of the human mind. Yet the idea that any irreversible act of amplification is necessary to collapse the wave function is known to be wrong: in ‘Renninger-type’ experiments, the wave function is collapsed simply by your human mind seeing nothing. The Universe is entirely mental."
"There is another benefit of seeing the world as quantum mechanical: someone who has learned to accept that nothing exists but observations is far ahead of peers who stumble through physics hoping to find out ‘what things are’. If we can ‘pull a Galileo,’ and get people believing the truth, they will find physics a breeze.
The Universe is immaterial mental and spiritual. Live, and enjoy."
So the universe is not physical, but mental.
Here is what others said about that one:
Today there is a wide measure of agreement that the stream of knowledge is heading towards a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a great thought than like a great machine
Astronomer James Jeans
The stuff of the universe is mind-stuff
Astronomer Arthur Eddington
More recently, described as an intelligent universe whose apparent concreteness is generated by cosmic data from an unknowable, organized source. The holographic theory says that: our brains mathematically construct hard reality by interpreting frequencies from a dimension transcending time and space. The brain is a hologram, interpreting a holographic universe.
Cyberneticist David Foster
In his play Copenhagen, which brings quantum mechanics to a wider audience, Michael Frayn gives these word to Niels Bohr: we discover that... the Universe exists... only through the understanding lodged inside the human head. . . .
I especially like this one:
Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, who was the head of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies wrote in his book, God and the Astronomers, that For the scientistwho has lived by faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream: The scientist has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.
The strange part is that these facts are known for almost a hundred years, and almost nobody knows about it.
How did this state of afairs come about?
On that page with the excerpt of the article about the "Mental Universe" is a comment by a reader that says: " I thought based on that non-mainstream view of QM that he might be a marginal figure, but hardly. His statements lend a great deal of credibility to the idea of consciousness as central to QM and therefore reality."
The author of the article, professor Richard Conn Henry, a physicist at John Hopkins University, answers to that:
"But the truly remarkable thing is that the view of QM that I express is NOT "non-mainstream." It is totally non-controversial. What IS controversial, is talking about it. (It has been accurately called physics' skeleton in the closet). Something really has to be done about this, and I am at least trying."
So the mental universe is a fact, a non-controversial generally accepted fact.
That is: amongst scienitists.
But what is controversial, is speaking about it. It is swept under the carpet. It is the skeleton in the closet of the scientists.
And that's why this fact is virtually unknown by the guy in the street.
We can compare this to another slip up of science, namely the fact that for 150 the layman was lied to about the assumption that the fossil record would support the evolution theory, something that is absolutely wrong. The fossil record shows the opposite of evolution, namely stasis; non-change.
About this, a famous paleontologist, Niles Eldredge, co-inventor of the punctuated equilibrium theory, says:
"...we have proffered a collective tacit acceptance of the story of gradual adaptive change, a story that strengthened and became even more entrenched as the synthesis took hold. We paleontologists have said that the history of life supports that interpretation, all the while really knowing that it does not."
Eldredge, Niles "Time Frames: The Rethinking of Darwinian Evolution and the Theory of Punctuated Equilibria," Simon & Schuster: New York NY, 1985, p. 44
So here it is stated flat out that the public was lied to about the fossil record for 150 years.
And even so now the fact that the universe and everything in it is not material but mental, is being swept under the carpet and hushed up.
From this we can learn that scientist not necessarilly have the good of science in mind, or the good of the masses, but mainly their own good. Sometimes they are just like humans.
And who can blame them, when rocking the boat means that you lose your job, your carriere is gonna be broken, en you'll never again find a job in your field.
Things like that don't happen anymore in our modern society you say?
Just look here what happened to a great scientist, Velikovsky, when he published facts that were not to the liking of the scientific establishment: Exodus - MountZion
Or watch on youtube the documantary "Expelled, No Intelligence Allowed".
But one way or another; the physical universe doesn't exitst.
Please be adviced that nevertheless it is not a good idea to start banging your head agains the wall, thinking: "That wall doesn't exist anyway", because we are subjected to the laws that God has set for our matrix, and head-against-the-wall-banging will result in a nasty headache.
Anyway; Welcome to the Matrix.
(een prophetic movie)


"The only reality is mind and observations."

Richard Conn Henry, Cambridge professor department of physics

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Eliyahu
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Message 3 of 47 (720556)
02-25-2014 8:48 AM
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how does this topic differ from any of your others?
Bs'd
If you can't see the difference, then I think you need stronger glasses.


"The only reality is mind and observations."

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Message 18 of 47 (720664)
02-26-2014 1:35 AM
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Re: Judaism and Critical Thinking
now see that you are of the Jewish faith. Can I ask you within your faith are you conservative(Orthodox) or are you Reformed or are you Reconstructionist? Or....have you placed yourself in a category yet?
Bs'd
I believe orthodox Judaism is the only real form of Judaism.
So I live in an ultra-orhodox community in the hills of Judea, in what some call the west-bank.
I don't think that we here are that ultra, simply serious orthodox, but it just doesn't get more orthodox then us here.
It does get more exotic, with fur hats, long side curls, colorfull coats, but not more strict in observance of the law.


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Message 19 of 47 (720672)
02-26-2014 7:22 AM
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Re: Solid Walls
Bs'd
To them I say: There is NOTHING except for God.
Repeating yourself with capitalization doesn't add any value to your words.
Bs'd
Says who?
And what about the whole physical world? The real solid tangible material world?
Well, that's just an illusion.
Yes, very much so. How does this point to God?
Glad you agree. That saves a lot of time.
And I don't say that points to God, what I point out is that that makes the Biblical text which says that there is nothing except for God possible.
There are other things that point to God, like for instance the anthropic principle.
In one shot we are rid of 99.9999999999999% of the material world.
However, we are still stuck with the remaining 0.0000000000001%.
True (...enough, anyway).
But, again, how does this point to God?
Even you just said (twice, even... sometimes with CAPTIALS) that there is nothing except for God.
But now you're saying the world is mostly nothing... and not showing any God. You're arguing against yourself.
So, what is it? Is there mostly nothing in this universe, or is there mostly God? What you've said here, is that there's mostly nothing.
The point I'm making is not that there is mostly nothing, the point is that there is nothing at all. And not just "mostly".
But, apart from your own confusion... all this means is that our original concept of the physical world was incorrect.
It sure was.
Things are not solid, they simply feel solid because of the fields they produce... not because they are continuous.
And they only feel solid when they are observed, or the potential for (later) observation is there.
When not observed, the particles turn into waves, and the matter is gone.
But just because fields exist doesn't mean God exists. It means fields exist.
How does any of this point to God?
Like I said, it doesn't. I just point out that what is only recently, say almost a hundred years ago, discovered by science, is written in the Bible 3300 years ago.
You have a false dichotomy here.
I agree that the world is not physical in the sense that objects are solid, impermeable matter.
But that knowledge doesn't create a mental entity in any way.
It creates a way that physical objects exist to us such that they feel solid even though they are not. This is explained by all the interacting fields (gravity, electric, energy...).
The point is that even the illusion of solidity disappears when the object is not observed, because then it turns into waves,
A common way to evade the mental Universe is to invoke ‘decoherence’ the notion that ‘the physical environment’ is sufficient to create reality, independent of the human mind.
That's not what decoherence is.
Decoherence is this: the mechanism by which the classical limit emerges from a quantum starting point and it determines the location of the quantum-classical boundary
All that means is, basically: "when things get big enough that we no longer require the specific equations of quantum mechanics to describe the physical motions... the equations of Newtonian mechanics work just fine."
Or, again: "when things are large enough that they act in the way we're used to experience things acting in our everyday lives."
The term has nothing to do with the human mind. I promise. Someone's trying to make a fool of you, and you're letting them.
So you say. But the difference between you and prof Richard Conn Henry is that I know of him that he is a professor of physics at a respected university, and you are some anonymous nobody whom I don't know at all, so I'm sure you will understand that I value the words of prof Henry much higher than anything you say.
As soon as you are a professor in physics teaching at a respectable university, and you get these words published in a high grade peer reviewed scientific journal, like Science or Nature, then I'll put your words on the same level as those of prof Henry, published in Nature.
The strange part is that these facts are known for almost a hundred years, and almost nobody knows about it.
I know about it.
So do I. But 99.99% of the people do not.
Compare it to the more than 100 year hoax that evolutionists pulled on the public, saying that the fossil record supported evolution. Every paleontologist knew it wasn't true.
Some laymen that delved into the subject also knew it. But 99.99% of the people did not know it.
Even now, almost half a century after punctuated equilibrium, people think you're crazy when you tell them and prove them that the fossil record shows the opposite of evolution, namely sudden appearance and stasis.
Even so with the fact that the universe doesn't exist. Just drop the term and people think you're crazy.
Yes, physicists know, but they are the only ones. And they keep it to themselves. As professor Henry says here in the comments: Science is a method, not a position: The Mental Universe
But the truly remarkable thing is that the view of QM that I express is NOT "non-mainstream." It is totally non-controversial.
What IS controversial, is talking about it. (It has been accurately called physics' skeleton in the closet).
So every scientist knows it, but you are not supposed to talk about it. It is called physics skeleton in the closet.
It's taught rather normally in university physics courses. Maybe electricity and magnetism courses? Maybe quantum mechanics courses... I can't remember. It's not a secret, though.
So the mental universe is a fact, a non-controversial generally accepted fact.
No, I don't think you understand.
Quantum mechanics are a fact, yes. But jumping to a "mental universe" just because things are not solid as you previously thought... with no other reason to use the term "mental" in any way... with no evidence to suggest any sort of consciousness within the universe apart from known humans and animals... that's silly. And that's what's "not talked about."
According to you, the concept of the mental universe is silly.
According to prof Henry, and also according to the scientists who peer reviewed the article, it is not silly, otherwise the article would never have been published in Nature.
And like I explained before, I value the opinion of prof Henry much higher then yours.
But it's not laughed away because it's not desired.
It's ridiculed because there's no evidence pointing towards that conclusion in any way.
Find some evidence, and people will listen. Just like they listened to Galileo... because he showed them the evidence.
Please be advised that nevertheless it is not a good idea to start banging your head against the wall, thinking: "That wall doesn't exist anyway", because we are subjected to the laws that God has set for our matrix, and head-against-the-wall-banging will result in a nasty headache.
Again, no.
The wall doesn't feel solid because of God.
The wall feels solid because of the fields it creates as described by quantum mechanics.
We have a wall that feels solid.
No God is necessary.
We used to think the wall felt solid because of solid physics.
The wall still feels solid.
No God is necessary.
We now think the wall feels solid because of the interactions of the fields created by all the components of matter as described by quantum physics.
The wall still feels solid.
No God is necessary.
The wall only feels solid when observed.
When not observed, the particles of the wall will turn into waves, and the wall will be gone.
That's what's happening.


"The only reality is mind and observations."

Richard Conn Henry, Cambridge professor department of physics

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Message 20 of 47 (720674)
02-26-2014 7:38 AM
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02-26-2014 12:43 AM


Re: translation problems?
the issue is that eliyahu has latched onto the word ain here (bolded above) because you can use it mean "nothingness". i was arguing that this is inappropriate based on its grammatical context, notably that there are words that follow it. it's in construct (a grammatical pair) with the next word, owd, so it should read as a whole phrase, "none-other" or "no-other", and "no-thing".
Bs'd
Here is the text: אַתָּה הָרְאֵתָ לָדַעַת, כִּי יְ-ה-וָ-ה הוּא הָאֱלֹהִים: אֵין עוֹד, מִלְּבַדּוֹ.
And "eyn od" means "nothing more", what would be together with the "melewado", meaning "besides him" in decent English: Nothing else besides Him
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"The only reality is mind and observations."

Richard Conn Henry, Cambridge professor department of physics

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Message 29 of 47 (720713)
02-27-2014 12:20 AM
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I would promote this, but I don't exist.
Bs'd
Well, we have to modify that statement a bit.
You think, therefore you are. What doesn't exist is your physical body, the comp you typed these words on, and the rest of that what we call "the material world".
Only your soul exists, or, in the words of unbelievers, only you conciousness.
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"As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter"
Das Wesen der Materie [The Nature of Matter], speech at Florence, Italy (1944) (from Archiv zur Geschichte der Max-Planck-Gesellschaft, Abt. Va, Rep. 11 Planck, Nr. 1797)
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"The only reality is mind and observations."

Richard Conn Henry, professor Johns Hopkin department of physics

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Message 30 of 47 (720714)
02-27-2014 12:32 AM
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Re: Solid Walls
So far... there's lots and lots of evidence that God does not exist.
Bs'd
I'm very interested in the proof that God does not exist. Can you ive me some of that lots and lots of evidence?
Preferebly the most strong and compelling you have available.
Thanks in advance.


"The only reality is mind and observations."

Richard Conn Henry, professor Johns Hopkin department of physics

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Message 37 of 47 (720870)
02-28-2014 2:26 AM


Bs'd
"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness"
Max Planck, As quoted in The Observer (25 January 1931)
Matter has no intrinsic existence. It is mind that causes matter, not the other way around.
Of course that is a death blow to for instance the evolution theory, therefore it is swept under the carpet, and is it not done to talk about it.
That is why prof Richard Conn Henry calls it "The skeleton in the closet of physics".
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"The only reality is mind and observations."

Richard Conn Henry, professor Johns Hopkin department of physics

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Message 38 of 47 (720871)
02-28-2014 2:43 AM


Bs'd
What are the building blocks of that what we experience as "the material world"?
Matter is made of molecules. Molecules are made of atoms. Atoms are made of protons, electrons, and neutrons. They are in turn made of quarks. But in the final stage, of what are the final building blocks of matter made?
The Bible told us, already 3000 years ago: "How many are your works, Y-H-W-H!
with wisdom you made them all;"
Psalm 104:24
"By wisdom Y-H-W-H laid the earth’s foundations,
by understanding he set the heavens in place;:
Prov 3:19
The fundamental building blocks of matter, the foundation of the universe, is wisdom.


"The only reality is mind and observations."

Richard Conn Henry, professor Johns Hopkin department of physics

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Message 40 of 47 (720874)
02-28-2014 4:06 AM
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Wisdom the building block
The fundamental building blocks of matter, the foundation of the universe, is wisdom.
Even assuming your Biblical argument is totally correct, your conclusion does not follow from it. God made matter out of whatever he chose to make it.
Bs'd
God choose to make it out of wisdom.
"As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter"
Das Wesen der Materie [The Nature of Matter], speech at Florence, Italy (1944) (from Archiv zur Geschichte der Max-Planck-Gesellschaft, Abt. Va, Rep. 11 Planck, Nr. 1797)
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"The only reality is mind and observations."

Richard Conn Henry, professor Johns Hopkin department of physics

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Message 41 of 47 (720875)
02-28-2014 4:10 AM
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Re: Solid Walls
Can you give me some of that lots and lots of evidence?
Not here, no, it would be off topic.
But I can do it here:
Message 310
I Know That God Does Not Exist
Bs'd
That thread is closed, and I only see there what you think, and I'm not interested in that.
What I want is some solid proof that God does not exist.
Please open a new thread about that subject and present me with the proofs.


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Richard Conn Henry, professor Johns Hopkin department of physics

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Message 42 of 47 (720887)
02-28-2014 7:42 AM


Wisdom the building block
Bs'd
"Buckle your seat belt Dorothy, cause Kansas is goin' bye bye"

The following lecture is presented by dr Gerald Schroeder. He is a nuclear scientist, educated at M.I.T. He was present at six underground nuclear tests of the US army.
Later he studied biology at M.I.T. and worked as a biologist.
At present he teaches in a yeshiva, (talmudic academy/rabbinic semenary) in the old city of Jerusalem.
With wisdom God created the heaven and the earth
The universe as a symbol of thought.
Presented at the Smithsonian Institution Conference: Complexity Theory and Semiotics: Unraveling the Mystery of Nature and the Nature of Mystery
May 11 2002
We live in a world steeped in what George Gilder refers to as the materialist superstition. If we can't see it, weigh it, touch it, it is not there. This view is not so surprising. We ourselves are material beings, in that we are made of matter. All our natural senses respond to matter in one form or another. Over the millennia of our development, it was the material environment that shaped and sharpened our senses.
But a revolution has occurred in this perception. It started with Einstein's amazing laws of relativity, that the passage of time is not constant, and the dimensions of space are flexible. Then came the discovery of the uncertain, fuzzy world of the quantum. And suddenly, our classical view of reality, the inbred misconception that reality must conform to our logic, was shattered. We have discovered that the reality stands in place of, or better said, represents a deeper essence of truth.
And that is what I discuss here, the idea, admittedly speculative, that the truth of our universe, is not as we perceive it, even with the aid of the most sophisticated particle accelerators and the most powerful space telescope; that from the invisible realm of the quantum to the vast reaches of space, our universe may more closely resemble a thought than a thing.
The study of our universe may the the ultimate exercise in semiotics.
The physical universe is real in the sense that it is tangibly out there. I measure the size, weight, hardness of an object. Get values. Other persons do the same, and they get the same data. It's not my imagination that when I look out from my porch, I see the row of cypress trees planted there to mark our property line. I'm part of the physical world, and so are the trees.
And therein lies the rub. We are all part of the same system. Is that perception made by me of the solid material world an artifact of how I, the perceiver, am built? I believe it was Bertrand Russel who said: The idea that there are little hard lumps that are electrons, protons, neutrons, is " derived from our perspective of touch. We perceive the world as particulate because the personal encounters we have with the world are primarily tactile. But it is an error to confuse our conception of reality with reality itself.
We are so deeply and totally within the system that we see it in self referenced terms. I mean: If ice could speak and one lump touched another, would it say: 'my, what a cold lump you are?' No. It would see it as being part of the same. I wonder if fish are any more aware of the water within which they swim than we are aware of the continuous stream of self-consciousness, the "I" of the self, that nonstop floods our heads.
But when we view our world from a more precise perspective its a very, very different view we get. Just as with a photo in a newspaper, up close it is only a mass of dots and spaces.
On the micro-scale, those things we call atoms that join together to become the solids we know an feel. The positive nucleus surrounded by the negative electrons. Pump up the nucleus to the size of an orange or grapefruit, and where is electron cloud? Four miles out in each direction. Four miles of exquisitely empty space. Not a space filled with air. Air is stuff. The four miles would be exquisitely empty of everything, filled only with virtual never-seen imagined photons that somehow binds the electrons in their bands of orbits. That volume ratio of an orange to a sphere eight or so miles in diameter is 1 part in 10^15. Imagine the impossibility of a task to find a single orange within a sphere of four miles in radius. It could take a lifetime. Solid though a stone may feel, it is really almost entirely empty space made to feel solid by virtual, never-seen forces.
And in the micro world of the quantum, even the protons and the neutrons and the electrons fade away into a fuzzy haze, a cloud of forces.
It was Louise de Broglie, in the 1920's, who opened a Pandora's box with his insight, first as a theory and then as experiment, that matter as well as light, must possess wavelike properties. With this realization, particles became waves, extended, no longer definite in size.
I wonder, as I look at the finger shaped leaves of those cypress trees, just what aspect of nature is reality and what is the metaphor.
Few scientists today argue for a universe without the big bang. The standard model is that somehow, from absolute nothing " nothing in the sense of not a thing, not material or time or space as we know them " came a massive burst of exquisitely hot energy, electromagnetic radiation, or, in other words, super powerful light beams. That was the beginning and everything that exist or has existed was formed from that initial energy. We are made of and are powered by that fifteen-billion "year -old burst of energy.
Now I have no problem in understanding how a crafts person might turn an amorphous lump of silver into a beautiful bowl, but I do not have a clue as to how a burst of energy, akin to super powerful light rays having no mass whatsoever, can metamorphose and become the solid elements that combined to form all the material world. Yet we have discovered that the entire universe is the manifestation of the energy of the big-gang creation, articulated in a myriad of different forms.
Rene's Magritte's painting of a pipe looks exactly like a pipe, and from a distance it looks real enough to smoke. But up close we see it is just paint on canvas. What would our world look like if we could view it really up close?
"Tradition can be a parasite, even an enemy." So wrote Frank Lloyd Wright in his brilliant classic "The Natural House". Our brain is surfaced by the cortex, seat of our pure logic. But under the cortex lies the lies the limbic system, filled with emotions and memories. And those memories strongly shape how we handle our logic. At times we cling to our traditions even when our logic tells us they are counterproductive and even wrong.
The song a sparrow learns in its youth is its song for life. And we humans are no different. I learned that the atom is made of hard little nuggets called protons and neutrons. And now we have discovered something very different. But is is hard to replace the song of our youth. Illogical though it seems, those imagined particles of the subatomic world have turned out to be fields of force, fuzzy and extended. Could it be that there is a reality even deeper than those forces, a single substrate from which everything flows?
Knowing the structure of a water molecule, the 104 degree bonding angle formed by the two hydrogen atoms as they each share their electron with she single oxygen, we can predict that high-energy H2O is gaseous, with no fixed order among the molecules. We call it steam or vapor. Moderate -energy H2O becomes somewhat more organized, forming a liquid. Low-energy H2O forms the ice crystal, a model of organization. This is all intrinsic in the chemistry and physics of the H and O atoms, the sharing of their electrons. I could predict the existence of water and ice and steam, all that from the basic laws of the chemistry of oxygen and hydrogen. A totally reductionist approach, even if I had never seen hydrogen or oxygen gases or water.
But now step back a few stages, to a time before the existence of H's an O's, before atoms, and before quark confinement, to the moment of the big-bang creation when all the world was composed of energy. As space stretched out and energy levels fell, a tiny part of that energy changed form and became solid, protons, and neutrons, and finally you and me. How? Intrinsic in the H2O molecules are the expressions of gas, liquid, solid, That is built into the mass and charges of the atoms.
Is there something intrinsic in the wave/particles of the big-bang energy that yields the sensation of solidity when they reach a certain level? Is there something we don't know about radiation, its nature or structure, that lets energy assume the form of matter?
I'll take a reductionist approach and look at the universe from the beginning to see what we can learn from "first principles".
Even with such a simplistic method we'll find a universe very different from that which we perceive even with our unaided senses.
I'll assume that we know all the laws of nature, a cookbook of the physics and chemistry of the universe. The first required caveat would be that fore some bizarre reason the self-annihilation of the particle/antiparticle pairs would not be complete. As the energy of the big-bang creation condenses, it forms matter and anti-matter theoretically in equal amounts. This could lead to total annihilation of all solid matter. Such was not the case. A tiny fraction of the matter survived and we are here as living evidence of that reality, as is every other tangible part of our magnificent universe. With this in place, then, based on the laws of nature and the initial condition of the universe, I could predict that through the alchemy of stellar temperatures and the immense pressures of supernova, the ninety-two stable elements would form. I'd know that among those elements would be sodium and chlorine. I could predict that through the alchemy of stellar temperatures and the immense pressures of supernova, the ninety-two stable elements would form. I'd know that among those elements would be sodium and chlorine. I could predict that they could chemically react, forming sodium chloride, common salt. All that would be known from the first principles.
But could I predict that in some marvelous combination of the building blocks of matter I'd find joy, sentience, awareness of emotions, the metaphysical flight of love? Not likely. In one mix of protons, neutrons, en electrons, I get a grain of sand. I take the same protons, neutrons, and electrons, put them together in a different mix, and get a brain that can record facts, produce emotions, and from which emerges a mind that integrates those facts and emotions and experiences that integration. It's the same protons, neutrons, and electrons. They had no face-lift, yet one seems passive, while the other is dynamically alive.
Nowhere in the brain is the bright green of a leaf, the blue of the sky. But I see the green leaf and marvel at the the beauty of the sky. I hear sound, but there is no sound in my brain. From where does all this replay of my senses arise, a replay that seems as if it were physically there in my brain? If it is, it is very well hidden.
The facile answer is that we interpret the biochemistry of the brain's auditory and visual systems as sound and sight. Of course that is the case, but where?
A jumble of letters has no meaning and in the letters there is no hint of the arbitrary meaning of a word. But from them, when joined together according to rules of a language, a sonnet can emerge. A blank surface and a pail of paint tell nothing, but by skilled combination a picture emerges so powerful that one touches the canvas to see if it is real. The sonnet is not in the letters any more that the painting is in the paint. But for physical articulation, the sonnet needs the letters and the picture needs the paint. The charge of an electron emerges from an electron, but the charge is not made of the electron. Does mind, sentience, emerge from the brain in a similar manner? Every level of existence, from the crystalline structure of salt to the changing complexity of a brain, is built from among the same ninety-two elements of our universe that in turn are made of a mix of protons, neutrons, and electrons. This being the case, at what level of atomic complexity does sentience, awareness, emerge?
Freeman Dyson, a physicist at the Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton, avers that it enters at a very basic level: "Atoms are weird stuff, behaving like active agents rather than inert substances. " It appears that mind as manifested by the capacity to make choices is to some extent inherent in every atom." Can mind be a part of an inert matter, an atom?
John Archibald Wheeler, former president of the American Physical Society, physics professor emeritus of Princeton University, winner of the Einstein Award, gives a clue to how that might be. Wheeler sees the world as the "it" (the tangible item) that came from a "bit" (eight of which comprise a byte of information) He is quoted as having first viewed reality as being composed of particles. Then as his understanding broadened, the particles were seen not to be particles at all, but rather manifestation of fields. Now after a lifetime of study, reality appears to be the expression of information.
Shouchen Zhang at Stanford, Anton Zeilinger at the University of Vienna, and Ed Fredkin at M.I.T. Voice the same speculation: that matter actually arises from a structured or organized substrate of information. That tangible matter is actually the manifestation of of ethereal information.
It all sounds bizarre. And is is nothing like the song I learned in my youth. Yet it is only slightly more outrageous than the proven phenomenon of intangible energy metamorphosing into matter.
This makes all the sense in the world if, in fact, matter is built form energy and energy is built from information. Suddenly, the old conundrum of how the physical brain gives rise to the ethereal mind and experienced sentience evaporates. It is not a question of consciousness arising form matter. It is rather quite the opposite, of matter arising from consciousness.
Mind, as information or wisdom, is present in every atom. Mind is ubiquitous in our universe, just as wisdom is the basis of all existence.
The tree and every other part of nature express in physical form the wavelike ethereal energy from which they are fashioned. And that elemental energy is none other than the manifestation of the wisdom from which it is built. The existence so familiar to our human sense of touch is but a metaphor that subtly implies an underlying truth far grander in its simplicity than that of the most exotic complexity of life and brain. The diversity of the cosmos, built of time and space and matter, has arisen from a singularity, not of the physical type couched within a black hole, but or a unity brought into being as mind, the first act of the creation.
J.A. Wheeler, during a BBC special, "the Creation of the Universe", summarized the quest of ultimate reality: "To my mind, there must be at the bottom of it all, not an utterly simple equation, but an utterly simple IDEA. An to me that idea, when we finally discover it, will be so compelling, and so inevitable, so beautiful, we will say to each other: 'How could it have ever been otherwise?'"
Plato described our perception of life as if we were persons viewing shadows on a wall, totally unaware of the reality that produces those two-dimensional images. The prophet Isaiah, three hundred years prior to Plato, laid the basis for Plato's analogy:
"Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf unstopped. " The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light; they that dwelled in the land of images, upon them the light has shown." Isaiah 35:5, 9:1
The study of our universe turns out to be an exercise in semiotics.
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Today there is a wide measure of agreement that the stream of knowledge is heading towards a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a great thought than like a great machine
Astronomer James Jeans
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"The only reality is mind and observations."

Richard Conn Henry, professor Johns Hopkin department of physics

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