Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 64 (9164 total)
3 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,838 Year: 4,095/9,624 Month: 966/974 Week: 293/286 Day: 14/40 Hour: 0/3


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   No genetic bottleneck proves no global flood
RAZD
Member (Idle past 1432 days)
Posts: 20714
From: the other end of the sidewalk
Joined: 03-14-2004


(1)
Message 120 of 140 (721220)
03-05-2014 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 105 by Faith
03-04-2014 11:09 PM


Neutral, deleterious or beneficial -- to selection pressure
No, Nosy, that is not how the terms are used. A neutral mutation is one that doesn't change what the allele would have done anyway. It's not related to the level of selection.
False. That IS how the terms are used.
Whether any change is neutral, deleterious or beneficial is entirely determined by how it affects the relative survival and reproductive ability of the individual in the current ecology. Change the ecology and the relative results may shift.
A black mouse in a tan ecology with hungry hawks is deleterious, especially compared to tan mice.
A tan mouse in a black ecology with hungry hawks is deleterious, especially compared to black mice.
Classic natural selection.

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
Rebel American Zen Deist
... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ...
to share.


Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)

This message is a reply to:
 Message 105 by Faith, posted 03-04-2014 11:09 PM Faith has not replied

  
RAZD
Member (Idle past 1432 days)
Posts: 20714
From: the other end of the sidewalk
Joined: 03-14-2004


Message 139 of 140 (732533)
07-08-2014 7:27 AM
Reply to: Message 128 by CreationPigeon
07-07-2014 6:41 PM


let's discuss age first -- see link
Welcome to the fray CreationPigeon,
Aquatic life, insects, amphibians and small, semi-aquatic animals such as otters and monitor lizards would not need to be on the ark as they could survive either in the flood waters or on floating vegetation mats. ...
Ah the old make up ways for organisms to survive by other means canard. I'll let the others handle this.
... rather than 4,300 years old.
Curiously the problem here, is that the earth is old, very very old, and there are living trees older than 4,300 years.
If you care to discuss this I suggest you start at the beginning of Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1 and read through the first several posts.
Of course failure to address the mass of obvious evidence of an old earth means you choose to live in a fantasy world rather than reality ... so do you want to learn about the real evidence of age?
Enjoy
... as you are new here, some posting tips:
type [qs]quotes are easy[/qs] and it becomes:
quotes are easy
and you can type [qs=RAZD]quotes are easy[/qs] and it becomes:
RAZD writes:
quotes are easy
or type [quote]quotes are easy[/quote] and it becomes:
quote:
quotes are easy
also check out (help) links on any formatting questions when in the reply window.
For other formatting tips see Posting Tips
For a quick overview see EvC Forum Primer
If you have problems with replies see Report Discussion Problems Here 3.0

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
RebelAmerican☆Zen☯Deist
... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ...
to share.


Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)

This message is a reply to:
 Message 128 by CreationPigeon, posted 07-07-2014 6:41 PM CreationPigeon has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024