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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Sin is not the same thing as race That says it all. This one comment shows that you feel that the law is an attempt to force one subset of the populations views on to all of society. That Faith is tyranny.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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people with a strong moral conviction against gay marriage are going to give up their businesses and go to prison.
Yup. Just like all those people that went to prison after passage of the civil rights act. Blacks are no different than those evil gays are they. (I tried to you use more vulgar slang on that last line, but just couldn't sink to that level.)Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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There are such things as what is right for society and what stands constitutional muster.
This law back fired on the bigots because society has reached the point that as a whole we do not countenance overt state sanctioned bigotry. I know that bigots are going to go kicking and screaming, but you will go. Society has matured a lot in the last 10 years on issues of race, sexual orientation and immigrants. These are baby steps but strong steps forcing the bigots further to the margins of society. The problem with them being pushed to the margins is their final death throes have a good chance of being very disruptive and violent. The SPLC has recently reported hate groups are declining but are getting more violent.
SourceFacts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Why shouldjn't someone who wants to open a business have the right to take whatever customers they WANT to take? That is basic freedom. No it isn't. That is a bizarre libertarian fantasy of how things should be. Funny how people like you want all the pluses of government but don't want to have to follow any laws you don't like.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
the indenturing of people from the orient Millions of white europeans were held in indentured servitude also. It wasn't a racial thing it was a "fuck everyone else I got mine" thing. How very christian.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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"I'll pay your passage to the colonies and in exchange you will work for me for a specific period of time (or with whatever terms) to pay off your debt to me."
They worked oof much more than the debt of passage. Indentured servitude could be much harsher than slavery, as the slave was a lifetime investment but indentured servants were only around for 7 years or so. Though a large percentage of immigrants to the new world in the 17th and 18th century were indentured servants, they came because their prospects in Europe seemed to be even worse. There are a number of good articles about the subject on the web. The wiki article is pretty good, but a number of others talk more about the brutality of the arrangement. As for the Chinese indentured servitude it is a little different but just as harsh and brutal. It is known as the Chinese ticket system.
quote:Source The difference between both and modern human trafficking is that modern human trafficking has no legal basis. Indentured servitude and Chinese-ticket system were supported by and authorized by the law. Society approved of the brutal systems.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Many regarded the Civil War as God's judgment for slavery.
And many don't think a god had anything to do with it. So there you go. What I am trying to say is that what "many regard" means absolutely squat.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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The right to refuse service for any reason, however, IS a right, one that you apparently don't support. Where is this right of which you speak granted? I do not see the tight to refuse service anywhere. Not in Constitution or Bill of Rights or any state constitution. There is no right to refuse service.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
There is a right to act according to conscience
Show me where this "right" is codified. What document is the "right" in?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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is a fundamental right to equal treatment regardless of race, age, sex, creed, orientation, culture, or any other category you want to apply. Even felons.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Don't get me started on missionaries
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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