Homosexuality and Evo, Creo, and ID

First Free Republic, now Daily Mail. Is the Onion your next source for information? It's no wonder you have no understanding of discrimination or evidence.

He has provided no evidence and does not respond to calls for evidence. He has stories and anecdotes. Another Liar for Christ it seems.

A third choice. Religion is not comparable to homosexuality because religion (for the non-religious) is a set of beliefs that guide your entire life (for Christians its a personal relationship with God and is undeniable). Homosexuality is simply a choice of sexual partners it does not inform the rest of your life.To tell you the truth, I wouldn't care if they took the 1st amendment and made it a new amendment changing the words homosexual for religion. I don't care if you establish homosexuality (legally, no sexual abuse or other tactics), or the free exercise thereof. Just don't try to force it on me or into my establishments. Don't try to force my church to marry homosexuals and don't force my Christian baker friend to make cakes for a homosexual wedding.

I know, I know--and you with gay friends, too!Equating homosexuality with the civil rights movement? Lokiare, dear heart--that's not what I was doing at all: I'm equating you with every garden variety bigot I've ever encountered.You have shown no evidence in this thread. Anecdotes are not evidence; links to press material are not evidence. You have established no facts.I know this probably puts me on your ignore list, an honor I will try to bear with dignity.Given your homophobia (the only psychological disorder you have actually demonstrated), the future of our increasingly tolerant society will be painful for you.Have fun with that.

Actually I did, however I'll go through tomorrow or in a few days and do the whole 3 page wall of text thing with a long list of studies that have been done, excerpts from them, and links to the sites where they can be found. Its getting late here though so I'm going to try to finish up posting what's in the thread.

Actually, you didn't.Don't go for bulk, lokiare, it betrays thinness on the ground.Just one sound, peer-reviewed study. Easy peasy.

Wow. Really reaching in desperation aren't you.You won't get an all veggie plate here because we have no such product. We don't serve that, not because we are bigoted anti-veggie, but because our product mix, our business offering, our target audience and our profits are not in that sector. (You know as well as I that any restaurant in business will gladly accommodate the vegetarian simply out of good business practice so this analogy is bogus to begin with.)No shirt, no shoes, no service is hardly bigotry against naked people and it does have health, insurance and modesty attributes of which you are unaware. Again, bad example.As far as liver? What you do in your own home is up to you. No one disputes that. You can also keep swastikas up on your walls, bar any niggers from passing through your door and play Hitler's speeches in the background all you want during your no-liver diner. No one gives a shit.Have all this up in your open-to-the-public-restaurant and the local sheriff may not be so accommodating.This secular society, in aggregate, determines what level of your bigotry is acceptable in public and what level is not, not you or your church. Any "rights" you have stop where they interfere with other's more basic rights. Deal with it.

On the first page of that link is one of the studies disproving another of the studies:Just a moment...

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Several lines of evidence have implicated genetic factors in homosexuality. The most compelling observation has been the report of genetic linkage of male homosexuality to microsatellite markers on the X chromosome. This observation warranted further study and confirmation. Sharing of alleles at position Xq28 was studied in 52 gay male sibling pairs from Canadian families. Four markers at Xq28 were analyzed (DXS1113, BGN, Factor 8, and DXS1108). Allele and haplotype sharing for these markers was not increased over expectation. These results do not support an X-linked gene underlying male homosexuality.

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This happens over and over. A study is put forth, someone peer reviews it showing its incorrect or the study itself is inconclusive. I'm asking for you to present at least one study that shows a genetic link to homosexuality. I have already looked and have been unable to find one that wasn't inconclusive or discredited. Nope sorry. The chemical reinforcement would prevent me from doing this. Also nice way to slip the insult "go suck cock" into a cleverly disguised post. Isn't that a violation of some forum rule some where?

No, we as Christians are being forced to cater to someone making a mockery of one of our sacred traditions (namely marriage). I've never heard of anyone refusing to serve fast food to a homosexual, only certain things that deal with our religious beliefs.

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No, we as Christians are being forced to cater to someone making a mockery of one of our sacred traditions (namely marriage).

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what makes you think christianity is the sole owner of marriage?

Prevent you? You mean you don't have a choice?

I'm going to bed now. I will be back in a few days to present multiple studies that prove my premise.I've had about enough logical fallacies, so from here on out I'm just going to name the fallacies in your post and move on, no point in even responding. If you can repost the same info without the insults, name calling, or logical fallacies I'll respond then.See you in a few days. Do me a favor and try not to get the thread locked before I can post the info.

There is a difference between establishing that something has a genetic component and locating the gene or genes. Equivocating between the two makes you look either ignorant or dishonest.

That is not true. Business persons that open their business to the public do so under the laws of the public sector. Not being allowed to discriminate comes with the territory.You said it was like an animal rights activist being forced to slaughter a cow,so I asked what you were being forced to do by the gays. The gays are not forcing YOU to do anything. jeebus forbid you are accepting of people. I bet jeebus would love it. lol. Marriage isn't a religious institution. Religious marriage, maybe. But homosexuals don't want reliigous married, they want married. No one is or even can force religious people to marry homosexuals.Secondly, are you also this up in arms about people like Ted Haggard or Rush Limbaugh "making a mockery of marriage"? Nor have I. I have neither heard of a gold crested heartford swallow flying southwest for spring. What relevance does either have with this topic?

I wonder what on Earth you think "false dichotomy" means. Here's a hint as to its actual meaning: a false dichotomy invariably involves a dichotomy of some sort. But remember that this is crap that you've made up, and for which you have produced not a shred of evidence.While we're remembering that, let's have a look at the American Psychological Association's Appropriate Therapeutic Responses
to Sexual Orientation.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.