I think an honest discussion should include considering new problems that you haven't addressed yet, even if you don't like the sound of them. It should also include considering that everything you've been doing so far isn't working.
The problem is the pure audacity of the political position on the conservative right. As an analogy, it's like your child telling you that he hasn't been in the cookie jar while everyone can see cookie crumbs all over his face, hands, and shirt front.
Conservatives have completely rigged the system so that it is much more difficult to crawl out of poverty than ever before. Robert Reich's film "Inequality for All" (available on Netflix) goes into a lot of it. For example, college tuition continues to increase at rates much higher than inflation:
Why is that? Conservatives have made it their goal to cut back on "spending" that just so happens to include education. As the government share of tuition goes down, guess who has to make that up? Students. As tuition rates skyrocket, guess who is left in the dust? The poor. At one time, university was within the financial reach of everyone, from poorest to richest. Not anymore. This is just one tiny example of many.
The tragedy is that so many poor people buy into the conservative rhetoric, mainly because the conservatives use religion as a red herring to cover up their pro-rich, anti-poor campaign.
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