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Message 1 of 29 (723619)
04-04-2014 11:46 AM


Maybe a dull-witted topic . . .
A pet peeve of mine is when politician's names are used for buildings, airports, aircraft carriers, coins, blah blah. So self-serving, especially galling when named after war criminals like:
Ronald Reagan National Airport
USS Ronald Reagan
So instead of politicians, I'd suggest only people who represent the most vulnerable, or oppressed minorities: Blacks, women, native americans, gays.
The Sacajawea dollar coin was/is a great idea (native american and a woman. Too bad she wasn't also a black lesbian!). I would be happy to see all our coins changed to native americans. How can we get any more american than that?
And people who represent critical thinking: scientists and educators.
George Washington Carver? Too soon for Carl Sagan to be used?
1. Comments?
2. If america came out with a two-dollar coin, who would you like to see selected?

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dronestar
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Message 3 of 29 (723630)
04-04-2014 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by ringo
04-04-2014 12:18 PM


RingO writes:
I spell them "loonie" and "toonie".
For the non-Canadian, southern US population, and world population, perhaps I should have shown a picture of the Canadian coin, from which we get the name "loonie" from:
The "toonie" (TWO-ney) is the two dollar version of the loonie.
I still think we should name the american coin "looney."
Yeah, to me, the monarchy is just as bad as politicians. I wonder if the British feel the same about Queen Elizabeth on money as you.
Okay, I had to do some googling:
Henry Norman Bethune (March 4, 1890 - November 12, 1939) was a Canadian physician, medical innovator, and noted Anti-fascist. So placing a communist on an american coin would cause the entire american population to go apoplectic. Therefore, I would second the motion. However, using a white male gets you two debits.
Terry Fox, there are not too many famous Terrys (O'Reilly, Gilliam, Bradshaw, Jones, Sawchuk), so a good pick. But, instead of the name "foxie", I'd go with "Terryoonie", more pizzazz. However, using a white male gets you two debits.
Lucille Teasdale-Corti, CM GOQ (January 30, 1929 - August 1, 1996) was a Canadian physician, surgeon and international aid worker, who worked in Uganda and contributed to the development of medical services in the country. A quick google search shows an amazing life story, okay good pick.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. A no-brainer, I should have included him in my original post.
Edited by dronestar, : No reason given.

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Message 6 of 29 (723635)
04-04-2014 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by New Cat's Eye
04-04-2014 1:00 PM


CS writes:
Are there any presidents that you don't think were war criminals?
quote:
If the standards of the Nuremberg trials were applied then every post-World War II American president would have been hanged as a war criminal.
Noam Chomsky

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Message 11 of 29 (723736)
04-07-2014 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by RAZD
04-04-2014 11:12 PM


RAZD writes:
Better idea ... put [Reagan] on a penny and bump everyone else up a notch. (Lincoln to nickle, Jefferson to dime, etc).
Then downsize it.
Hah! Instead of calling the Reagan coin a "nickel," let's call it a "trickle."
RAZD writes:
Replace the nickle with a three-pence ...
I think you are channeling Captain T. Spaulding:
quote:
Captain T. Spaulding (Groucho): The nickel today is not what it was fifteen years ago. Do you know what this country needs today? A seven cent nickel. Yes siree, we've been using the five-cent nickel in this country since 1492. Now why not give the seven cent nickel a chance? If that works out, next year we can have an eight cent nickel. Think what that would mean? You could go to a newsstand, buy a three cent newspaper, and get the same nickerl back again. One nickel carefully used would last a family a life-time.
Groucho Marx (from Animal Crackers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0K3QtU-iNM
For women's rights, we already had the Susan B. Anthony dollar. What happened to that? I like your idea about representing unions, any body in particular?

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Message 12 of 29 (723737)
04-07-2014 9:00 AM
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04-05-2014 3:12 PM


Oni writes:
George Carlin
...or Hulk Hogan
No Chuck Norris?
"The coin tough enough to beat back inflation"?

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Message 16 of 29 (723776)
04-08-2014 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Taq
04-07-2014 4:32 PM


Re: In Hitch We Trust
Taq writes:
You are not going to count the presidents who oversaw the relocation and genocide of America's indigenous populations? I think that would be all of the Pre-WW II presidents.
Well, I certainly don't contest your sentiment. However, I am a little ignorant of 1800 laws. I think the Civil Rights Act, in 1866 would have made the butchering of native americans illegal. Before that, I am unsure if there were laws that forbid the slaughter of native americans. Sometimes Theo knows a lot about 1800s history, maybe he can weigh in. Again, I agree with your sentiment, a pox on all presidents who thought that the only good indian was a dead indian.
About Hitchens : 1. I prefer no more white males on coins, and 2. he was pro-Iraq war. The invasion of Iraq was beyond immoral and illegal, so I would be against Hitchen's likeness on a coin.

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Message 18 of 29 (782356)
04-22-2016 12:29 PM


Tubman on the $20 bill
Well, none of us thought specifically of abolitionist Harriet Tubman in this thread (but RAZD did say escaped slave, so he gets partial credit), . . . but, . . . I am dronestar, and I would approve of this replacement.
Jackson was dreadful . . .
quote:
Jackson, whose presence on the $20 bill was criticized due to his history as a slave-owner and his dismal record on Native American and racial issues, epitomized by the Jackson administration's infamous "Trail of Tears" policy that forcibly relocated the Cherokee people to devastating effect.
quote:
Harriet Tubman will be face of the $20
After months of debate and controversy over how to incorporate a woman's portrait onto the $10 bill, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew announced plans to redesign the $10, $20 and $5 bill. All three denominations will have a female presence.
A montage of women involved in the American suffrage movement -- Lucretia Mott, Sojourner Truth, Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, and Alice Paul -- will be on the back of the $10.
Harriet Tubman will be face of the $20
Edited by dronestar, : credit RAZD
Edited by dronestar, : Forgot CNN link
Edited by dronestar, : added women info.
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Message 20 of 29 (782363)
04-22-2016 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by jar
04-22-2016 12:47 PM


Tubman $20
Jar writes:
but I am sorry they decided to keep Jackson even if only on the reverse.
Yeah, but look at it symbolically, being smaller on the reverse, he will be a "second-citizen" to a black woman.
Poetic justice.

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Message 22 of 29 (782391)
04-22-2016 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Dr Adequate
04-22-2016 3:52 PM


Mrs. Winstance's 'treasure' bill
DA writes:
Alternatively they could just leave a blank space in the middle of each bill for people to draw their own pictures.
A blank space for individual creativity?
Hmmm.
At first, I read your post as a light-humored, and potentially creative possibility. As you may have guessed, I kinda am pro-self-expression. So the idea of giving the public a blank national canvas is rather neat.
However, . . . let's be realistic.
In america, instead of uplifting images and grand ideas, you'd probably more often see hateful drawings of black lynchings, commercial starbuck coupons, and crudely drawn genital cartoons.
Is there so much beauty in life that we can afford to have even more crudity in our day-to-day, financial transitions? I think not.
So maybe, a standard picture of Mrs. Carla Winstance of Ridgewood WOULD make the better portrait on a dollar bill . . .
(. . . drawn with exquisitely and masterfully detailed engraved genital depictions).

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Message 24 of 29 (798144)
01-31-2017 11:40 AM


US Gold Coin, Featuring A Black Woman
Well, pretty darn cool. First Tubman on a $20 bill, and now a black lady liberty. The face appears strong, determined, proud, and, dare I say, . . . pretty.
Kudos US mint.
A few nitpiks (sorry):
1. a $100 gold coin will not be circulated much.
2. Would the black community prefer an actual black woman, instead of a 'generic' black woman. Would a small black girl be more inspired by an actual black woman that could have been depicted? E.g.: Toni Morrison, Mary Angelu?
3. I still think native-americans would be the only truly, authentic americans on an american coin. It may help to remind people that ALL non-native-americans are IMMIGRANTS. Seems like that would be a good message right about now.
U.S. Mint Unveils 2017 American Liberty Gold Coin, Featuring A Black Woman As Lady Liberty
U.S. Mint Unveils 2017 American Liberty Gold Coin, Featuring A Black Woman As Lady Liberty | DCist

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Message 27 of 29 (798162)
01-31-2017 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by NoNukes
01-31-2017 12:11 PM


Re: US Gold Coin, Featuring A Black Woman
NN writes:
and most likely they won't be issued any time in the next ten years.
Oh yeah, you're right. I momentarily forgot the political climate we are currently in.
My hopes and desires will need to be replaced with the coin below, for at least the next four years, . . . or till the earth has been blown up . . . which should be sometime next Wednesday, . . . noonish.
(So much for my original plan NOT to use privileged white men on coins and bills)

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Message 28 of 29 (798163)
01-31-2017 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by RAZD
01-31-2017 12:07 PM


Re: US Gold Coin, Featuring A Black Woman
quote:
Obviously lady liberty is a white European.
Jeesh, even in symbolism, there is white privilege. Sigh.

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Message 29 of 29 (890866)
01-11-2022 9:48 AM


Maya Angelou, FIRST BLACK woman on U.S. coin
I'm very happy,
But I still look forward to having Tubman replace Jackson on the $20 bill. We've been good, but we can't last, hurry treasury, hurry fast.
“You can kill me with your hatefulness, but just like life, I rise.” The legend lives on in not just her words but in new quarters we will see in circulation this month. The incredible Dr. Maya Angelou is the first to appear in a series of commemorative quarters honoring influential women.
(not sure why the pict isn't showing: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIwniulXMAEggEF?format=jpg&na...)
The five coins will still have George Washington on the face, but the honorees will be featured on the reverse side.
. . . some women did appear on U.S. coins, including Helen Keller on the 2003 Alabama quarter as part of the 50 State Quarters Program. Additionally, the 2004 Iowa state quarter featured an image of a female teacher. Susan B. Anthony also appeared on a dollar coin in 1979 and Native American Sacajawea appears on a golden dollar coin issued in 2000.
Maya Angelou is the first of five women to be featured U.S. quarters this year

  
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