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Author Topic:   What if Jesus and Satan were real?
Raphael
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Message 241 of 591 (725961)
05-05-2014 3:31 AM
Reply to: Message 240 by Blue
05-05-2014 1:28 AM


Re: Reasons For Belief
Hi there Blue! Welcome to Evc. I like your name and avatar. Sweet eyeball.

I want to encourage you not to give up so easily! There are very intelligent people here. Your beliefs will most definitely be shaken. But if you stand your ground I assure you, you will grow . Don't become for them what they believe you to be. In the mind of the onlooker believers are merely delusional illogical hypocrites most of the time, who talk big but have nothing to back it up. If you throw in the towel now you're acknowledging everything that is said about us. There are things he doesn't know, just as there are things we don't know. But we are all human. There is validity in your experience, you just need to know how to argue it the right way Stick it out bud!

- Raph


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ringo
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Message 242 of 591 (725984)
05-05-2014 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 234 by Blue
05-04-2014 5:54 PM


Re: Satan
Blue writes:

Personally I would listen to GOD as to what is evil.


How do you know you can trust God?

Blue writes:

... lets review history.


Yes, let's.

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ringo
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Message 243 of 591 (725985)
05-05-2014 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 236 by Blue
05-04-2014 10:11 PM


Re: Satan
Blue writes:

Can man decide what is evil, or should god decide what is evil?


St. Paul said that man can decide:
quote:
Romans 2:14-15 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;

Blue writes:

IF your answer is man should be the decision maker, then what is morality?


Morality is what is written on our hearts. The question is: Who does the writing? God or society?

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Blue
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Message 244 of 591 (726021)
05-05-2014 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 242 by ringo
05-05-2014 11:39 AM


Re: Satan
ringo writes:

How do you know you can trust God

You learn to trust God via prayer/revelation.


Sincerely

Blue


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Blue
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Message 245 of 591 (726022)
05-05-2014 8:44 PM
Reply to: Message 243 by ringo
05-05-2014 11:47 AM


Re: Satan
The verse you speak of is explaining that all people are judged by the law regardless of their belief. If man is gentile, or believer and does or doesn't follow the law he or she is judged by the law. Weather or not the law is in their hearts is just a point that even gentiles will follow the law not knowing it persay. If we take that further it does not quantify to God granting man to disobey God's law without judgement, even if society is writing a law. So as long as that is understood, man WILL and CAN decide.

Sincerely

Blue


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 246 of 591 (726031)
05-05-2014 9:25 PM
Reply to: Message 244 by Blue
05-05-2014 8:34 PM


Re: Satan
ringo writes:

How do you know you can trust God

You learn to trust God via prayer/revelation.

How do you know that it is God that you are trusting?


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Blue
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Message 247 of 591 (726032)
05-05-2014 9:26 PM
Reply to: Message 246 by New Cat's Eye
05-05-2014 9:25 PM


Re: Satan
Instinct. It's a deep deep feeling I get when revelation is received. Billions can corroborate my claims. If you are trying to argue knowledge is supreme, there is no knowledge in God. What we have is belief, not different than atheism.

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Sincerely

Blue


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 248 of 591 (726033)
05-05-2014 9:31 PM
Reply to: Message 247 by Blue
05-05-2014 9:26 PM


Re: Satan
ringo writes:

How do you know you can trust God

You learn to trust God via prayer/revelation.

How do you know that it is God that you are trusting?

Instinct.

Weird. What's that like?

You just know because you know?

How do you know?

Not why do you know.


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Blue
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Message 249 of 591 (726034)
05-05-2014 9:35 PM
Reply to: Message 248 by New Cat's Eye
05-05-2014 9:31 PM


Re: Satan
Did you know that Genesis 1 is confirmed by Science? Written thousands of years before Scientific confirmation.

{Not even close to on-topic. - Adminnemooseus}

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Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic banner and comment.


Sincerely

Blue


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 250 of 591 (726036)
05-05-2014 9:43 PM
Reply to: Message 247 by Blue
05-05-2014 9:26 PM


Re: Satan
Editing isn't helpful...

If you're reviewing what you wrote, don't submit it yet. (or just use Notepad to type the shit up into and then copy it into the browser later)

If you're responding to what I wrote, use a new message and don't edit.

...with the intent of helping, honestly.

It's a deep deep feeling I get when revelation is received.

Physically? Does it tickle, or is it heavy?

The question is 'how do you know?'.

Billions can cooberate my claims.

That doesn't matter to me. But I am a Theist and a Christian, to break the ice.

If you are trying to argue knowledge is supreme, there is no knowledge in God.

I'm not, don't assume about me. And I agree that there is no knowledge in God.

What we have is belief, not different than atheism.

I don't care about atheism.


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 251 of 591 (726038)
05-05-2014 9:45 PM
Reply to: Message 249 by Blue
05-05-2014 9:35 PM


Re: Satan
Did you know that Genesis 1 is confirmed by Science? Written thousands of years before Scientific confirmation.

Now we are cross-posting, zigzagging our responses over time. Let's just stick to the other responses, ok?

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic banner.


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Blue
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Message 252 of 591 (726039)
05-05-2014 9:49 PM
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05-05-2014 9:45 PM


Re: Satan
IT actually feeds the mouth of your question.

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic banner.


Sincerely

Blue


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Blue
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Message 253 of 591 (726040)
05-05-2014 10:27 PM
Reply to: Message 250 by New Cat's Eye
05-05-2014 9:43 PM


Re: Satan
I know because of revelation.

You know how gravity works right? This does not mean you know the theory, it just means you understand how gravity works. This is the same for revelations. They are much different than coincidences. They are answers to questions, or at least the revelations I receive are answers to questions. I have received perfect answers to questions. I was about to explain one of them to you but apparently that is off topic.


Sincerely

Blue


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Blue
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Message 254 of 591 (726046)
05-05-2014 11:59 PM
Reply to: Message 241 by Raphael
05-05-2014 3:31 AM


Re: Reasons For Belief
I appreciate the welcome. I was not giving up. I was choosing not to have a discussion. I don't care enough to have that conversation for it to be considered giving up.

Sincerely

Blue


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Pressie
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From: Pretoria, SA
Joined: 06-18-2010
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Message 255 of 591 (726049)
05-06-2014 1:04 AM
Reply to: Message 240 by Blue
05-05-2014 1:28 AM


Re: Reasons For Belief
"your nutz"?

Either you think you can see MFFJM2's testicles or you meant "you're nutz". I take it you meant you think MFFJM2 is crazy.

To me it seems as if MFFJM2 asked some very important and valid questions to you. Nothing "nutz"' about that. Why don't you just answer the questions?

Ater this post of yours it seems as if you're just here to deliver a sermon. Not here to discuss anything.


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