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Blue Inactive Member |
We can make the same speculation about anything. Those type of points are moot. Referring to the quote in my response.
Sincerely Blue
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Blue Inactive Member |
In point, post 256 has a bunch of verses being interpreted by an athiest with a lot of claims. I'm trying to decide if I even want to take the time to respond. It will be a waste because we will just disagree.
Sincerely Blue
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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I'm trying to decide if I even want to take the time to respond. It will be a waste because we will just disagree. Well, if you don't then half the fun of being here is gone. If you're looking to strengthen your faith by our agreement with your arguments then you have come to the wrong place. We are not the choir. Yes, some will disagree. More like a lot will disagree. OK, OK, the vast majority here will disagree. They do that around here. But, if you want to test your skills ... welcome to the pit! You are trying to carry illogical positions with articles of faith, false assumptions and very weak arguments. You are going to get hit ... real hard. Saying things like ...
quote: ... is going to get you kicked in the stomach. Yes, we do indeed understand the bible, its history, its meaning and in most cases soooo much better than most of the fundy christians that gallop in here to do battle with the atheists. And, of course, we don't accept your errant bible, nor do we appreciate any revelation from your god since practically no one here believes in your specific flavor of a god. You cannot use juvenile arguments here. We have heard them all hundreds of times over. They are easily overcome since most fundies give no thought to the implications, no thought to debate format and seem to be here only to proselytize. That is too damn easy to defeat. If you want to do dirty to the devil here, then suck it up, research, know thine enemy, grab a handful of crotch and argue, point for point. And for godsake, Blue, have the facts and know what you are talking about. Engage brain before opening mouth. This is not some high school social club. This is the big league. Edited by AZPaul3, : cuz i wanted 2.
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Blue Inactive Member |
Paul I have not seen a single good argument. I can tell you all are in love with each other no doubt. In the midst It's just opinion vs opinion. Quoting dead people is pointless. We disagree that's all. This ain't no big league. It's a debate forum where most people living have never heard of coming to talk about their thoughts because people here are just regular folk. So grab your dick and munch.
Edited by Blue, : Add Edited by Blue, : Add Edited by Blue, : Add Edited by Blue, : uuhhh "cuz i wanted 2"Sincerely Blue
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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So grab your dick and munch. Ok, big boy. Have it your way.
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Blue Inactive Member |
You must be a narcissist. I'm done here. Ty for your kindness. Have fun with the big league.
Sincerely Blue
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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I'm done here. Another one bites the dust.
Ty for your kindness. You're most welcome.
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3983 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
It's a pleasure to watch you work.
"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
My narcissist side says, "Thank you."
The outcome was failure, however.
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3983 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
That remains to be seen.
"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
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ringo Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Blue writes:
My parents didn't "create" me. They reproduced themselves in me, including all of their flaws. If you really want to use that analogy, then our flaws are God's flaws. Did your parents create your intentions? My intentions are the product of nature and nurture. In Satan's case, the only place nature and nurture could have come from was God.
Blue writes:
If it's only based on God's wishes, and if going against God's wishes is "abuse", then it isn't freedom.
God created free beings. This freedom is abused but it is also exercised as per God's wishes.
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ringo Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
On the contrary, it would be damn near impossible to prosecute him: "Mr. Lucifer, did you or did you not choose to fall into the hole that God dug?"
Perhaps from Lucifers standpoint, he was choosing autonomy over submission. I would be hard pressed as a defense attorney to defend him in court.
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ringo Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Why wouldn't He?
The next question would be why would God trick us? Phat writes:
According to what? The Bible? Go figure, Charles Manson's diary says that Charles Manson is a good guy.
I might direct the courts attention, however, to the evidence which does not have any good attributes on satans rap sheet while Jesus has a darn good record.
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Blue Inactive Member |
It seems lucifer sinned at the exact time man sinned, the serpent getting its legs cut off signifying judgement. And if you read ezekiel 28 it reads to support the idea. Lucifer could go anywhere including heaven and then the earth became his prison. He can be judged on his choice to deceive man.
Fyi: we don't believe in a different god we just interpret it differently. Just like siblings would their parent or students their teacher. Edited by Blue, : AddSincerely Blue
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Blue Inactive Member |
God created man perfectly with the ability to choose. Just like your parents created you within natural processes originally created by God. Then you developed becoming what you are in free agency. This is also true for lucifer.
Sincerely Blue
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