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Author Topic:   What if Jesus and Satan were real?
Blue
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Message 406 of 591 (727169)
05-16-2014 2:24 AM
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05-16-2014 2:02 AM


Re: Satan
Please watch the video and let me know your opinion.
Edited by Blue, : Add

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Message 407 of 591 (727172)
05-16-2014 3:22 AM
Reply to: Message 406 by Blue
05-16-2014 2:24 AM


Re: Satan
Sorry, could you rather explain to me what you think is important in that video? Currently I'm in the middle of nowhere and reading this by way of a satellite phone. Downloading a video will cost a fortune.
By the way, I Googled The Harbinger and it seems to me as if Jonathan Cahn is quite a nut.

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Blue
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Message 408 of 591 (727174)
05-16-2014 3:42 AM
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05-16-2014 3:22 AM


Re: Satan
Maybe you should watch it instead of listening to others.

Sincerely
Blue

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Message 409 of 591 (727175)
05-16-2014 4:10 AM
Reply to: Message 408 by Blue
05-16-2014 3:42 AM


Re: Satan
Not listening to others. I read the headings of the chapters in the book. Nuts.

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1.61803
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Message 410 of 591 (727191)
05-16-2014 10:02 AM
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05-16-2014 1:16 AM


Re: Satan
Blue writes:
Where it reads "and evil" is translated as "and calamity". Especially if you read the context of the whole chapter. However I'm sure you know that...
Changing the word does not make it any more palatable.
calamity noun \kə-ˈla-mə-t\ : an event that causes great harm and suffering
I am still unable to reconcile omniscient and benevolence in the face of human suffering.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 411 of 591 (727193)
05-16-2014 10:21 AM
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05-16-2014 2:24 AM


9-11 and what may happen thereafter
I dont think the video is nuts at all. God never makes us come closer to Him any more than He makes our enemies attack us. He does foreknow that such things must happen, however.
The rest of the world is very envious of America and yet have increasingly come to hate us---as a country. They claim that not only do we hog the worlds resources for our own people---we brazenly police the world to preserve our own interests.
9-11 was but a taste of what may happen...if 5 nukes hit us and destroyed 5 cities instead of two buildings, our economy would collapse and our way of life change, because it is quite certain that we the people would go to war against such a strike.

When I use a word, Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, it means just what I choose it to meannothing more nor less.

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Blue
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Message 412 of 591 (727194)
05-16-2014 10:48 AM
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05-16-2014 10:02 AM


Re: Satan
Which is different than evil. In that verse it refers to punishing the wicked.
Edited by Blue, : Err

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Blue
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Message 413 of 591 (727196)
05-16-2014 10:51 AM
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05-16-2014 4:10 AM


Re: Satan
Watch the video. Then share your opinion.

Sincerely
Blue

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Blue
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Message 414 of 591 (727204)
05-16-2014 11:23 AM
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05-16-2014 10:21 AM


Re: 9-11 and what may happen thereafter
I think in some cases God does permit calamity..

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Blue

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Blue
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Message 415 of 591 (727206)
05-16-2014 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 379 by ringo
05-15-2014 2:02 PM


Re: Satan
To people that are enslaved by evil nations it would be rather nice being purchased by a hebrew. Probably would be a walk in the park. You would get a job, home, food, freedom after 6 years if you desired.

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Blue

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Blue
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Message 416 of 591 (727207)
05-16-2014 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 387 by ringo
05-15-2014 2:35 PM


Re: Satan
I don't think it is a cop-out. Military and police forces have suicidal jobs and they know it.
Edited by Blue, : Edit

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ringo
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Message 417 of 591 (727209)
05-16-2014 11:43 AM
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05-16-2014 11:29 AM


Re: Satan
Blue writes:
You would get a job, home, food, freedom after 6 years if you desired.
quote:
Exodus 21:4 If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself.
"Free" to abandon your wife and children.

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ringo
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Message 418 of 591 (727210)
05-16-2014 11:50 AM
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05-16-2014 11:31 AM


Re: Satan
Blue writes:
Military and police forces have suicidal jobs and they know it.
Nonsense. Risking your life for a living is not "suicidal".
(By the way, jobs like farming, logging, fishing, mining and construction are often more dangerous than policing or soldiering.)
Choosing to do something risky is not the same as "choosing" eternal torment.

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1.61803
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Message 419 of 591 (727217)
05-16-2014 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 412 by Blue
05-16-2014 10:48 AM


Re: Satan
Blue writes:
Which is different than evil. In that verse it refers to punishing the wicked.
How then to reconcile the punishment of the innocent?
In addition, if they are wicked, are they not still God's creations?
And in so being merely being punished for being created as such? One may engage in apologist calisthenics all they might but the duplicitous contradiction remains to be adequately explained imo.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Blue
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Message 420 of 591 (727219)
05-16-2014 12:26 PM
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05-16-2014 11:43 AM


Re: Satan
After 6 years all debts are wiped. Look it up.

Sincerely
Blue

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