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Dr Adequate
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Message 16 of 137 (727269)
05-16-2014 5:22 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Faith
05-16-2014 5:00 PM


How about also protesting the girls kidnapped from school in Nigeria.
To whom?
I have privately been screaming about this, as you'd know if you could see my facebook page, which you can't. But with whom should I lodge a protest?
The official government of Nigeria is against this, I can't protest to them, they agree with me.
The government of the US has sent people to find them. That's good. But it means I can't protest to them, they're on my side and taking action.
The whackjob loony leader of "Boko Haram" is responsible for all this, but I can't protest to him, partly because he's insane, and partly because if I knew how to get in touch with him I wouldn't bother writing letters, I'd apply for the $7,000,000 bounty on his head.
Where do I file my protest? Where did you file yours? To whom do we address it?
Again, I would ask you, since you raised the subject: what can I do? What action can I take? You have once more raised the subject without including this information in your post, as though you want to complain about stuff but have no interest in anyone actually doing anything about it. If you can think of anything we should be doing, do let us all know.
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Message 17 of 137 (727270)
05-16-2014 5:36 PM
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05-16-2014 5:22 PM


...and so prayer was invented. A futile act to comfort those incapable of real action.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 18 of 137 (727280)
05-16-2014 11:40 PM
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05-16-2014 5:22 PM


I'm just glad to know you're keeping track of it all. Often there isn't anything one can do, as you say.

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Message 19 of 137 (727323)
05-17-2014 12:14 PM


America has lots of Christians.
If even a fraction of them moved to the Sudan, they could elicit real change within the country. I'm guessing that would be the truly Christian thing to do: Sacrificing your wealth an comforts for the betterment of mankind and all that.

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Message 20 of 137 (727329)
05-17-2014 12:40 PM
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05-16-2014 1:29 PM


Faith writes:
They may not be, strictly speaking, but if they are being persecuted because they are considered by their persecutors to be Christians that makes them Christians.
I'm just saying that it isn't really a confirmation of your I-told-you-so.
By the way, if you were ever persecuted for your Christianity, the atheists on this forum would be the first ones to stand up for you.

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Message 21 of 137 (727347)
05-17-2014 3:36 PM
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05-17-2014 12:14 PM


I've often thought along those lines myself. We wouldn't be welcome, of course, would probably trigger some violence, so I'm not sure it's all that great an idea when you think it through.

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Message 22 of 137 (727370)
05-17-2014 4:40 PM
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05-17-2014 3:36 PM


. We wouldn't be welcome, of course, would probably trigger some violence, so I'm not sure it's all that great an idea when you think it through.
So you won't sacrifice your wealth, safety and comfort to help Christians who have none of these things because you would be in the same position as them? Yes, I see you are drawing heavily on your Christian faith in your moral assessment.

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Message 23 of 137 (727375)
05-17-2014 5:40 PM
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05-17-2014 12:14 PM


Wouldn't that be an ideal way of tackling the issue?
Luke 12:33 - Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.
I guess wide screen TV and air con are too much to give up for the oppressed (one of the advantages of being a soulless, hateful atheist is that I don't have to act directly against the position I espouse).

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Message 24 of 137 (727387)
05-17-2014 6:25 PM
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05-17-2014 5:40 PM


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Dr Adequate
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Message 25 of 137 (727412)
05-17-2014 11:07 PM
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05-17-2014 4:40 PM


They wouldn't be welcome to the point of not being allowed to stay in the country. The U.S. is not the only place in the world with immigration laws.

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Modulous
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Message 26 of 137 (727439)
05-18-2014 11:01 AM
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05-17-2014 11:07 PM


They wouldn't be welcome to the point of not being allowed to stay in the country. The U.S. is not the only place in the world with immigration laws.
Yes, nobody gets into and stays in the US without permission If 10 million US Christians went to the Sudan, I don't think Sudan's famously effective government would be able to do much about it.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 27 of 137 (727444)
05-18-2014 11:10 AM
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05-18-2014 11:01 AM


Yeah, there's not much of a guard on the U.S.-Sudan border. And once the intrepid Christians have crossed, they'll blend easily into the surrounding population, which I'm fairly sure consists largely of white people who don't speak Arabic.

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Modulous
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Message 28 of 137 (727450)
05-18-2014 11:18 AM
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05-18-2014 11:10 AM


Who cares about blending in when you have an army of Jesus powered martyrs?

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Message 29 of 137 (727465)
05-18-2014 12:17 PM
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05-17-2014 5:40 PM


I tell you the truth, if you had faith even as small as a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,' and it would move. Nothing would be impossible"

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Message 30 of 137 (727579)
05-19-2014 8:10 AM
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05-18-2014 11:01 AM


To The Sudan
If 10 million US Christians went to the Sudan ...
I like this idea. This could be very good under two caveats. First, if there were some way to chose which christians went, like having entire churches, the mega-churches, go and the, second, if there were some way to make sure they don't come back.

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