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ramoss Member (Idle past 637 days) Posts: 3228 Joined:
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I would say that 'you can't refuse people'. but, fi they want' a pornographic cake, unless you do pornographic cakes for other people, then, you can refuse to do that, because it is not a produce you provide.
If you do wedding cakes, then you should sell the same cake you make for one type of client for the other type of client. Religion, gender, ethnic group or sexual preference shouldn't matter.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 637 days) Posts: 3228 Joined:
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The 'no shirt, no shoes' actually is in the health code.
Different issue.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 637 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
I don't see any evidence that either your position, or the position of the terrorist is 'God's will'.'
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ramoss Member (Idle past 637 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
I am sure you can quote where it says 'A man shall not marry a man, nor a woman marry a woman'.
Please, provide that quote.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 637 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Oh boy, you won't refer to the specific scriptures.. because, you know why faith??
You know that your claim does not hold up to scrutiny, particularly if you read the claim in context. Context means so much, yet, I noticed many religious conservatives are unable to put more than a few sentences together in a row for their theology. They will knit a sentence here, and a sentence there, all out of context, and then claim 'it's the Word of God'.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 637 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
I am sure you do.
The question is .. are you acting rationally, compassionatel or consistent with the books you claim are holy. Having read those books, and seeing your behavior, I see a lot of discrepancies.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 637 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
That is your faith. That is not my faith.
I am very happy to say God doesn't care.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 637 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Speaking as a middle of the road atheistic liberal, I disagree. There is a reason for public accommodation laws.
How about if you were in a small town, and the entire town boycotted you because you were gay?? It's the whole 'we don't serve blacks' mentality. Mind you , you don't have to provide anything you don't give anybody else.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 637 days) Posts: 3228 Joined:
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You have a fake Jesus. Can you show that you do not? Edited by ramoss, : s
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ramoss Member (Idle past 637 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
There is another case that happened, where a tee shirt person didn't make 'gay pride' tee shirts The judge did ruled he did not have to. On the other hand, the business owner DID find another tee shirt maker for the customer who would make the tee shirts for the same price.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 637 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Uh, yes they are. The fact you can't see it speaks volumes
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ramoss Member (Idle past 637 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Is that true?? It seems to me that if that were true there would be a whole lot looking for the log in your own eye.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 637 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Redefining terms does not change reality, but it does lend strength to reinforcing bias.
That's why you redefine terms.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 637 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
I don't see where God is actually saying anything about sin what so ever. I see a bunch of people make claims in God's name, but that is vastly different than God saying anything.
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