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Author Topic:   Where should there be "The right to refuse service"?
ramoss
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Message 2 of 928 (728655)
05-31-2014 11:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Minnemooseus
05-31-2014 10:33 PM


I would say that 'you can't refuse people'. but, fi they want' a pornographic cake, unless you do pornographic cakes for other people, then, you can refuse to do that, because it is not a produce you provide.
If you do wedding cakes, then you should sell the same cake you make for one type of client for the other type of client. Religion, gender, ethnic group or sexual preference shouldn't matter.

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Message 59 of 928 (728774)
06-02-2014 9:29 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by dwise1
06-01-2014 2:35 AM


The 'no shirt, no shoes' actually is in the health code.
Different issue.

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Message 229 of 928 (729133)
06-05-2014 8:22 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by Faith
06-05-2014 8:39 AM


Re: Denial of service and not the person?
I don't see any evidence that either your position, or the position of the terrorist is 'God's will'.'

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Message 230 of 928 (729134)
06-05-2014 8:22 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by Faith
06-05-2014 8:53 AM


Re: Denial of service and not the person?
I am sure you can quote where it says 'A man shall not marry a man, nor a woman marry a woman'.
Please, provide that quote.

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Message 231 of 928 (729135)
06-05-2014 8:25 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by Faith
06-05-2014 2:30 PM


Re: Denial of service and not the person?
Oh boy, you won't refer to the specific scriptures.. because, you know why faith??
You know that your claim does not hold up to scrutiny, particularly if you read the claim in context. Context means so much, yet, I noticed many religious conservatives are unable to put more than a few sentences together in a row for their theology. They will knit a sentence here, and a sentence there, all out of context, and then claim 'it's the Word of God'.

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Message 234 of 928 (729139)
06-05-2014 11:46 PM
Reply to: Message 233 by Faith
06-05-2014 8:42 PM


Re: Denial of service and not the person?
I am sure you do.
The question is .. are you acting rationally, compassionatel or consistent with the books you claim are holy.
Having read those books, and seeing your behavior, I see a lot of discrepancies.

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Message 532 of 928 (755729)
04-11-2015 12:27 AM
Reply to: Message 508 by Faith
04-09-2015 5:55 PM


That is your faith. That is not my faith.
I am very happy to say God doesn't care.

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Message 562 of 928 (755847)
04-12-2015 1:47 PM
Reply to: Message 533 by coffee_addict
04-11-2015 12:53 AM


Speaking as a middle of the road atheistic liberal, I disagree. There is a reason for public accommodation laws.
How about if you were in a small town, and the entire town boycotted you because you were gay?? It's the whole 'we don't serve blacks' mentality.
Mind you , you don't have to provide anything you don't give anybody else.

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Message 667 of 928 (757106)
05-03-2015 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 658 by Faith
05-02-2015 9:03 PM


Re: The manufacture of bigotry
You have a fake Jesus.
Can you show that you do not?
Edited by ramoss, : s

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Message 725 of 928 (758206)
05-22-2015 1:22 AM
Reply to: Message 716 by vimesey
05-20-2015 12:39 PM


Re: Can bake, won't bake, UK
There is another case that happened, where a tee shirt person didn't make 'gay pride' tee shirts The judge did ruled he did not have to. On the other hand, the business owner DID find another tee shirt maker for the customer who would make the tee shirts for the same price.

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Message 767 of 928 (758371)
05-24-2015 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 762 by Faith
05-24-2015 7:12 AM


Uh, yes they are. The fact you can't see it speaks volumes

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Message 775 of 928 (758395)
05-24-2015 11:05 PM
Reply to: Message 770 by Faith
05-24-2015 5:58 PM


Re: Go get it somewhere else
Is that true?? It seems to me that if that were true there would be a whole lot looking for the log in your own eye.

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Message 819 of 928 (758549)
05-28-2015 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 805 by Faith
05-28-2015 1:19 AM


Re: No second thoughts?
Redefining terms does not change reality, but it does lend strength to reinforcing bias.
That's why you redefine terms.

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Message 913 of 928 (758719)
05-31-2015 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 843 by Faith
05-28-2015 4:12 PM


Re: Sin?
I don't see where God is actually saying anything about sin what so ever. I see a bunch of people make claims in God's name, but that is vastly different than God saying anything.

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