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Porosity Member (Idle past 1364 days) Posts: 158 From: MT, USA Joined: |
Understood... I was just pointing out another thorn.
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Porosity Member (Idle past 1364 days) Posts: 158 From: MT, USA Joined: |
You still have not addressed my points.
There is no record of a global flood in any ice core samples taken from all corners of the globe. If a global flood happened without a doubt, it would have destroyed the polar ice caps removing any record of sediment. Did your god protected the ice caps?
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 321 days) Posts: 16112 Joined: |
It's a figure of speech, Faith.
There are 57,000,000 ocean's-worth of "water" on the Sun, enough to fill a vast reservoir. There you go. Now I've spoken of it in those terms.
The things you make up without evidence are not obvious. Here's something the lead scientist did say: "It translates into a very, very large mass of water, approaching the sort of mass of water that's present in all the world's ocean". This is not the same as calling it an ocean.
It's a mineral with hydroxide ions in it. If you are genuinely too stupid to understand this interesting scientific result, you should stop talking about it. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 714 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The scripture implies that there were no polar ice caps before the Flood, they formed afterward.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 714 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Water. Amount of oceans' worth. Why mention it at all if it's a mineral that never was and never will be water?
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Coyote Member (Idle past 1376 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
So? Its wrong about a lot of other things too. What's one more...
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic banner. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 714 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Science is wrong about whatever contradicts the Bible.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3959 Joined: Member Rating: 3.1
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This topic was going really bad yesterday, but I forgot my laptop at home as was thus unable to log in at my internet connection at work.
I'm going to try to force the off-topic to find a better home. And catch up on the search for on-topic at this topic. Temporary closure in about 10 minutes. Adminnemooseus Or something like that©.
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Porosity Member (Idle past 1364 days) Posts: 158 From: MT, USA Joined: |
There are ice core samples that record sediments that date back thousands of years before any human records, including Abrianic mythology. Ice core samples can be dated extremely accurately, you literally count yearly snowfall down the column, back thousands of years.
Are you suggesting your scriptures or indeed your flood is older than 800,000 years?
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 321 days) Posts: 16112 Joined: |
No-one said "it's a mineral that never was and never will be water". Sheesh.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3959 Joined: Member Rating: 3.1 |
Coyote gets a special off-topic prize for his message 5 regurgitation of favorite (but off-topic) anti-flood/YEC themes.
Faith also gets a special off-topic prize for her major topic theme disruption at message 18. And then there were a few messages I deemed to deserve the "BIG off-topic banner". I'll now mention that there is a new nice blog entry on this topics theme at http://questioninganswersingenesis.blogspot.../...nt-of.html One topic title comment: I should have gotten the "prove" changed to "give evidence toward" before I approved this topic. Now let's have the messages be on-topic (or possibly suffer harsh Adminnemooseus response). As I see it, it's some sort of "getting the water out of the mantle and/or getting it back in" sort of thing. Adminnemooseus Or something like that©.
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Porosity Member (Idle past 1364 days) Posts: 158 From: MT, USA Joined: |
I also see a better understanding of the chemistry of Ringwoodite should be allowed OT. The terminology used by the major new sources gives the impression of "oceans" when in fact all this H2o is locked up in the Ringwoodite mineral. Here are some good resources:
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 714 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Here are some possibly relevant statements from Wikipedia:
Flow, solubility, percent of water "contained" in the rock and so on. The blog entry that Moose posted also speaks of actual water occurring in various phases of the chemistry involved. All I want to know is whether the enormous quantity of water contained in the ringwoodite was possibly ever actual water in such a quantity, that then became ringwoodite. And by the way I haven't felt any need for an answer to this particular question about where the water went after the Flood as I've seen creationist answers that seem sufficient to me, having to do with the dropping of the sea floor. Which incidentally could be implicated in the turning of water into ringwoodite.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 321 days) Posts: 16112 Joined: |
Of the mantle.
Of hydroxide in ringwoodite.
No. There was never that amount of liquid water just sloshing about in bulk. If I have correctly understood your question, that is the answer.
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Tangle Member Posts: 8549 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.4 |
At the moment, I don't care where the water came from, I'm asking you whether the fact that god flooded the world to a level higher than the highest mountain was a miracle or not. "And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die." Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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