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Author Topic:   Does the Christian God Play with Free Will?
Zoraster's evil twin
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Message 51 of 83 (72572)
12-12-2003 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Rrhain
12-12-2003 5:03 AM


This "free will" in the first place is an invention of the same men who invented your christian god, if not so then where is it, is there will dangling from my back? Oh I assure you we are quite free, but the notion that the christian god made us so and gave it a name is laughable.
The story of Adam and Eve, taken for a record of our ancestors? Ahahah.. did you ever think how the races of the world stemmed from a couple of beautiful caucasians in paradise? Little more than a mythical fable, parable if you must, but history? Dear god, we are in a lot worse shape than previously thought if people really believe that nonsense.

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Zoraster's evil twin
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Message 54 of 83 (72675)
12-13-2003 11:07 AM
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12-13-2003 6:25 AM


Ahh well thank you very much for clarification! I do have your answers as well my friend, since both are fictions you might try looking into Paradise Lost as Milton gives a much more insightful and wonderful story than the ancients ever could. Satan did inhabit the serpent, and he was found at the side of Eve whispering lies and vanities into her ear. I find Milton's script on the paradise tale much more enchanting and leaving less to the imagination than the dusty ol' Bible.. Cheerio!

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Zoraster's evil twin
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Message 57 of 83 (73174)
12-15-2003 9:50 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by Rrhain
12-15-2003 9:04 PM


I fail to see a difference between Genesis, who's writers swear to have conversed with God himself, and Milton, who in several books of Paradise Lost converses with a heavenly muse; would the christian God lead him astray?
I'd say it's better evidence than you'll find in an ancient riddle like that.

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Zoraster's evil twin
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Message 59 of 83 (73312)
12-16-2003 10:25 AM


No Rrhain I am not claiming that Milton was not influenced in any way by Christianity. What I am saying is that if the writers of the bible somehow had conversed with God, and Milton also called on the powers and truth of heaven to put truth into his doctrine, wouldn't believers see the two documents as infallible coming from the same God? Milton was extremely dedicated to Christianity, I don't know how you inferred that I thought any different.
Are we to believe that God expressly talks to only an explicit few, and does not personally convey his message to the rest of us? Are more ancient words more highly valued over "God's Word" of today?
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Message 61 of 83 (73442)
12-16-2003 4:45 PM
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12-16-2003 10:46 AM


Re: Nutty Idea
Why would a loving Christian God choose only one lump of people, his chosen ones? It simply doesn't compute that the same God that created all that is perfectly, would in turn select a strain of his creatures and share his secrets with only them... IE.. I think they're making something uhuuuppp!

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