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And your source of knowledge that there was tectonic activity associated with the alleged flood is what exactly?Is that tectonic activity and different than the tectonic activity we see today?

I stopped reading some of the posts that don't treat me with "simple consideration and politeness" some time ago. Just once it would be nice if someone acknowledged that I said something that makes sense. As long as that isn't happening I reserve the right to read whatever I want to read.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

That's a very interesting thought. I will ponder it.What DO they look like from above?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

So, no rebuttal to the age of the channeled scablands vs. the age of the purported flood?Typical. What you can't rationalize or obfuscate, you ignore.But facts are stubborn little things. They don't go away because we wish them to, or because we ignore them.In science, one good fact is enough to cause the rethinking of an otherwise elegant theory. How many facts does it take to cause the rethinking of a belief?

I will.

Well, it turns out that what you think is completely wrong and not evidence for anything. There is NO FLAT PLAIN AROUND THE MONUMENTS!. I visited and photographed Monument Valley last Spring and saw with my own eyes that it is not a flat plain anywhere.You just keep making this stuff up.There is no evidence what so ever that the monuments were carved out of surrounding rock by a massive flow of water. The monuments are not oriented in the same direction as you would expect if there had been a massive flow of water.The physics of the behavior of water and how it erodes rocks and landforms in massive floods is well understood. The evidence at Monument Valley clearly shows that a massive eroding flood never happend there.Your descriptions of what you think is evidence that results from a flood clearly shows that you don't understand physics.Physics shows that the layering of the sediments exposed in the Grand canyon and Monument Valley could never have been deposited in a single flood.Physics shows that the erosion of the Grand Canyon and Monument Valley could never have been caused by a flood.

They are randomly shaped with no directional orientation.

Is it possible to find a picture?

The page about Monument Valley DESCRIBES the area as a plain.

Your eyes seem to be at odds with people who spend a lot of time there.Here's a page that says it's a plain, not the one I remember, a different page, but it says the same thing.
MonumentValley.org » Geology Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

That may be, but it is not a flat or level plain.

It doesn't have to be tabletop flat for pete's sake, why does everybody get nitpicky as if I'm talking about an unnatural perfection anyway. But it is a plain, and probably more or less the surface of a rock layer.

These are religious, not scientific, views. There is no evidence for a worldwide flood 4300 years ago, no scientific definition of perfect, no evidence of non-natural processes leading the planet toward deterioration (whatever that means), and no evidence of a Creation resembling that described in Genesis.Until you find evidence supporting your views you can't hope to convince anyone. Imagine someone fully sympathetic to and supportive of your beliefs, and all they want is to be able to bring the message to others. They ask you for evidence so that can say more than, "Faith at EvC Forum says so." What evidence do you have that, interpreted by the actual laws of the universe (instead of ones you make up), leads to your conclusions?--PercyEdited by Percy, : Typo.

When you look at the whole region the topography may seem flat because of the scale it is viewed from.When you are on the ground driving or hiking it is rugged and anything but flat. It is crisscrossed by intersecting washes around still eroding hills.It only appears relatively flat when viewed from far enough away that you can't see the washes and arroyos and low hills (remnants of eroded towers).

You're just repeating your bald declaration using different words. No one here can imagine how a river drainage system could form beneath a flood. It's seemingly impossible, and it isn't something we see occurring anywhere in the world today. You're going to have to describe how this could happen for us.--Percy