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Message 1229 of 1304 (733227)
07-15-2014 11:15 AM
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07-15-2014 10:54 AM


Re: Legoland
No one will agree with you because you just like your own definitions better than the ones everyone else is using and agrees upon. I'm sure everyone would be glad to switch to your definitions if they made any sense, but they don't.
Wherever you might stand upon the surface of this Earth, you are standing atop a geological column. No location is an exception, and the specifics of the strata underlying any location matter not. Sediment can add to any local geologic column anywhere, regardless whether that column includes deformed or eroded stata.
Then the whole idea of the Geologic Time Scale, which was built on the idea of a vertical stack of horizontal layers that are found here and there in various proportions, is false. If you don't have an ascending vertical structure, a column, you do not have a time scale represented by the rocks, which could only be physically represented by such an ascending vertical structure.
I think you are all mad as hatters.

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Message 1231 of 1304 (733229)
07-15-2014 11:40 AM
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07-15-2014 11:36 AM


Re: Legoland
I'll have to look it up but the layers aren't everywhere on the earth.

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Message 1232 of 1304 (733230)
07-15-2014 11:45 AM


A Column is a VERTICAL Structure
column
/ˈkləm/
noun
noun: column; plural noun: columns
1. an upright pillar, typically cylindrical and made of stone or concrete, supporting an entablature, arch, or other structure or standing alone as a monument.
synonyms: pillar, post, support, upright, baluster, pier, pile, pilaster, stanchion; More
obelisk, monolith;
Doric column, Ionic column, Corinthian column, Tuscan column
"arches supported by massive columns"
a vertical, roughly cylindrical thing.
"a great column of smoke"
an upright shaft forming part of a machine and typically used for controlling it.
"a Spitfire control column"
a vertical division of a page or text.
a vertical arrangement of figures or other information.
a section of a newspaper or magazine
UPRIGHT. VERTICAL.
It is not still a column if it continues anywhere but ON the vertical structure.

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Message 1237 of 1304 (733237)
07-15-2014 12:38 PM
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07-15-2014 12:34 PM


The strata are sedimentary rock. Lava doesn't form strata.

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Message 1239 of 1304 (733239)
07-15-2014 12:40 PM
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07-15-2014 12:36 PM


Yes, I know it incorporates strata from around the world in a mental construct, I've said as much myself, but that construct IS vertical and is based on vertical segments of strata, it isn't just relocated wherever, it is BUILT UP using these segments.

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Message 1240 of 1304 (733241)
07-15-2014 12:44 PM
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07-15-2014 12:39 PM


Re: Legoland
NON FLAT AND NON HORIZONTAL surfaces form AFTER all the strata are in place. They don't "go away," they are just ORIGINALLY not in any form other than flat and horizontal.
As I said I can't tell if the blue line is flat and horizontal or not because of the angle of view, but it doesn't matter, it was clearly originally flat and horizontal, and if it isn't now that is because the whole formation has sagged, which fits what I keep saying: THE STRATA ARE LAID DOWN AND THEN THE WHOLE STACK IS DEFORMED.
I still don't know what to make of your other illustration. Whatever it is, it had to have been laid down flat and horizontal originally.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 1242 of 1304 (733243)
07-15-2014 12:47 PM
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Re: A Column is a VERTICAL Structure
Oy.

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Message 1244 of 1304 (733246)
07-15-2014 12:49 PM
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07-15-2014 12:47 PM


It doesn't form strata IN THE GEOLOGIC COLUMN which is made up of sedimentary rock.

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Message 1248 of 1304 (733250)
07-15-2014 12:56 PM
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07-15-2014 11:59 AM


Re: Legoland
No, that is not the Geologic Column. Sheesh.

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Message 1249 of 1304 (733251)
07-15-2014 12:57 PM
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07-15-2014 12:55 PM


There may be lava dikes and sills between the layers but they aren't the layers themselves.

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Message 1253 of 1304 (733255)
07-15-2014 1:00 PM
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07-15-2014 12:51 PM


Re: Legoland
I need to know more about that picture before I label it anything. What am I looking at here, the exposed side of a hill or what? But those sagging layers had to originally be horizontal and flat. The straight flat uppermost layer needs explanation. When did that deposit?

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Message 1255 of 1304 (733258)
07-15-2014 1:04 PM
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07-15-2014 12:57 PM


If you can show where igneous rocks have formed within the column just as flat and horizontal as the sedimentary rocks I'll rethink it. Otherwise you are wrong. The Geologic Column is a vertical stack of horizontal sedimentary rocks, made up of many segments found in many places, fine, but it's still a vertical stack of horizontal flat rocks.

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Message 1257 of 1304 (733260)
07-15-2014 1:05 PM
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07-15-2014 1:01 PM


Re: A Column is a VERTICAL Structure
But an upright and vertical column is not necessarily comprised of flat and horizontal layers. That seismic picture I posted is part of the geologic column and yet the most of the layers aren't flat and horizontal.
If it is part of the Geo Column then they were originally flat and horizontal. The Column has been distorted in most places after it was laid down.

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Message 1258 of 1304 (733261)
07-15-2014 1:06 PM
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07-15-2014 1:04 PM


Are Re: Legoland
I was talking about the photograph, what are you talking about?

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Message 1262 of 1304 (733267)
07-15-2014 1:52 PM
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07-15-2014 1:11 PM


Re: A Column is a VERTICAL Structure
But that is not at all clear just from the picture when the flat layers were laid down. There's something odd about that picture. Where is it and what is it?

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