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NoNukes Inactive Member |
It really is just a big old confused mess, full of nonsense and falsehoods. I'm trying to avoid the kind of editorializing that seems to be drawing off topic banners lately. But would it be too patronizing if I noted for Faith's benefit that coal is sedimentary rock? Okay. I'm butting out of the geology thread again. Describing the rock cycle in the terms used in 8th grade science texts is the extent of my knowledge. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
You just didn't read carefully enough or get the whole context. I see your point. Using coal as an example of igneous rock would be an improper example. Which leaves the question of where you get the idea that magma cannot form layers. Would the following be an example of a layer formed by igneous rock that would meet your standards? Layered intrusion - Wikipedia
quote: How about this http://www.nature.nps.gov/.../Sites/DETO/HTML/ET_Igneous.htm
quote: Is the ocean floor a layer that you would acknowledge as part of the geological column? It is true that the layers of the geological column are generally sedimentary layers. At least as best as I know. But the base layer is granite, which is not sedimentary. And of course, all rocks, except maybe granite, become sedimentary via erosion. dating | Definition, Geology, Methods, & Facts | Britannica.
quote: Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
No Nukes took back his error, time for you to do so also. And that is a coal seam. Look at the examples I linked. Let's be careful. My error was assuming that you were an idiot. Your point was that the picture showed coal. If that's true, then you had a legitimate argument and at least the form of your argument was correct even if there is a factual mistake. But of course, if the picture is not coal, you simply made a mistake. That still means you are not an idiot. I made an error regardless of whether that formation is coal or cooled lava. But don't compound that error as you are doing now. You'd better be sure who has made an error. The picture was taken on a volcanic island. It seems way more likely that you are in error. Besides that, I've given you some other layers to deal with. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
However, if it is CERTAIN that it's lava OK, I'll certainly accept that, but just because somebody says it's lava doesn't convince me because it looks so exactly like the coal seams I linked. Given the circumstances, namely the location on Ascension Island, do you think the material in question is likely to be coal? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
There is no mention of the column being anything other than a vertical stack of sedimentary rocks. Yes there is.
quote: ABE: I want to expand on my point above. In the stratigraphic column, the presence of igneous rock is ignored because the column is telling the story of the sedimentary layers which are the ones for which we can determine geological and chronological ages. The stratigraphic column is a vertical representation. I'm not the first person to post that today. And what is the angle in the picture of the Grand Canyon Supergroup rocks. Are they vertical or horizontal? Finally, when you read the word "representation" and you then read the following, what did you make of the description of a "time column" in which the layers are stacked on top of each other despite the fact that they were not found that way in the field.
quote: Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
And again, I know there is no such thing as a perfect representative of the Geo/Strata Column anywhere, it's a construct made up of many incomplete representatives. Stop raising these idiotic objections that have already been answered. I did not raise the objection uninvited. I brought up the fact that the role of igneous rock and its relationship to the geological column was explained in an article that you claimed did not even mention igneous rock. You do not even have the decency to acknowledge your error. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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