Growing the Geologic Column

Sounds like you need to sign up at Evolution Fairytale Forum. Those people over there will "get it" and you will only have maybe one or two who disagree with you at a time - and they will get banned after a little while anyway. So here's the link .... Evolution Fairytale ForumYou would fit right in over there.HBD

I'm not interested in fitting in or preaching to the choir. But I must say it's extremely disappointing to find so many "Christians" here who really aren't.

There is only one layer that could be true of, and that's the layer at the top, the one labeled "base tertiary." All the layers below that -- or let's say most because there are some that don't -- extend completely across from left to right. The one called Albian does and the lower one with the wavy top and bottom does, and those had to have been laid down before the faults that cut through them, which shows all the layers were in place when the faulting occurred -- ALL the faults, the faults that go from bottom to top and the faults that don't. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You really don't know anything about me to judge whether I am a "Christian" or not except that I think your ideas about the flood, science and Biblical interpretation are ridiculous.

I didn't name any names HBD but your attitude toward me is proof enough that what I said applies to you too. I can hold out some slim hope that you are saved nevertheless but the way you dismiss the standard understanding of the Bible doesn't bode well. I don't need to know you personally. It's one's view of the Bible that tells me who is a Christian or not. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

No, it isn't going to happen. You are preaching belief without evidence. How can you convince anyone doing that?To make matters worse, all of your preaching is being refuted using that evidence you neither understand nor accept.You are doing exactly what St. Augustine warned against:

Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience.

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Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men.

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If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods and on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion.

You are the poster-child for St. Augustine's writing. And you expect to convince anyone?????

I've answered your accusation many times coyote. There are still people n the world whose "ears to hear" can be opened. I was as blind and deaf as all of you once. Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic banner.

My attitude towards YOU ??????? Well go right ahead and judge me and so heap judgement upon yourself.Good day. Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic banner.

The attitude I'm talking about is in the post I was responding to. Good grief.But also in sarcastic remarks you've made that align yourself with the opposition here. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic banner.

The theology is, of course, off topic.

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And then there is the constant refrain that I provide no evidence for my assertions. But my assertions are just a way of saying "Look!" Just "look for yourself," the evidence is right there, on the cross sections etc. I point something out, but instead of looking you point something else out.

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And you make a lot of claims without diagrams. Nor do you respect the limits of the diagrams you do produce. But even worse here you are complaining that people actually look at parts of the diagrams you don't want them to look at and see evidence you don't want them to see.Look, expecting people who disagree with you to be biased in favour of your beliefs is ridiculous. But here you are complaining because that expectation isn't met.

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I have allowed myself to hope that maybe somebody here, just one person, one of the posters or a lurker, doesn't matter, would just recognize the truth in what I'm saying, just "get it" but that isn't going to happen is it? Good thing I can laugh at it at least some of the time.

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Given the confused and vague nature of many of your arguments, it's hard to believe that you want anyone to "get it".

Just for the record, I"m stating that, "Just look!" is not evidence.Furthermore, wrong. We do look at what you are saying and it never changes. It's all nonsense.

If I didn't occasionally run into sane people in this world, EvC could do me in. You (collective) can't read, you can't think, you can't understand the simplest communication, you go for the least likely interpretation of almost any subject, you prefer the most twisted upside-down view to anything sensible. EvC is just a little backwater part of the internet but unfortunately it is a microcosm of the craziest views that are gaining ground in the world, which I think is what the Bible calls the Great Delusion that's coming on the earth in the last days, and a place to find out that it's impervious to sanity and reason. Why a SCIENCE website? Well that's a puzzle but there it is. A place where good is evil and evil is good and white is black and black is white and bitter is sweet and sweet is bitter and sanity is insanity and insanity is sanity and rationality is irrationality and irrationality is rationality and up is down and down is up ...

...and isn't it amazing that only you get it Faith. Just you with no training or education have been able to disprove all the sciences the world has been woking on for 200 years. All of geology gone, all of palaeontology, gone, great chunks of Physics and astronomy, gone. biology and genetics gone. And all without leaving your chair.The great sadness is that no-one else can see it. All those scientists that have spent their lives studying their subjects in exquisite and painful detail, have missed what's right their in front of their faces and only you can see it. Millions of them over generations. Strange too how those sciences manage to convert their knowledge into practical technologies that seem to work out despite their misguided views.Genius!

Your hate for honesty and truth are noted. Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic banner.

I would have thought scientists were thinkers who could get some things right, but the problem seems to be that we're in a time when it takes God and if you've rejected God you can't think straight. I'm not special, I'm no genius, but I find that most of the people who can think straight any more just happen to be those who trust the Bible as God's word. Most of the Christians who come on to EvC compromise the Bible in one way or another. And of course you laugh at those who take it seriously anyway. But that's the only source of truth there is in the end. Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic banner.