Growing the Geologic Column

I don't think the faults occurred "before" the salt or before any of the deposits. I think they all occurred after.

I didn't mean to say that they are volcanic, but that they are connected with volcanism. But as I also keep saying I HAVEN'T SPENT TIMNE ON THIS YET, so there's no point in tyring to pin me down on something I haven't thought aqbout.

blah blah blah science this and science that. The thing is if you don't know by now that I wouldn't confuse sedimentary with volcanic, and treat it as a simple misspeaking, but in fact ridicule me as if I could really make such a mistake, you are not worth talking to. This kind of thing is all too common in this madhouse. That and a dozen other abuses of logic, reason, sanity and civility I could probably list.

They also aren't CALLED Multiple Layers, they're called SANDSTONE and LIMESTONE etc. But that doesn't matter to you. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

It STARTS with mud, what happens after that is how it becomes separated sediments. Which you might know if you stopped to think at all, but like everybody else here you don't. You are willing to take the latest thing I say and make it stand for all the arguments I've ever made here. That's underhanded and it's stupid. And there is a distinction between the sciences of the unwitnessed past and the real sciences that anyone with an IQ of 80 ought to be able to figure out.lEdited by Faith, : No reason given.

Just another abusive post from one of the knowitall Evos.

As I read through the latest posts I marvel that I ever had the patience to actually try to answer such a mad collection of misreadings and accusations and bizarre "corrections" of my supposed errors as never ever fails to follow on anything I say here. Oh, once in a while I get to pursue a line of thought and even enjoy it for a while, but it doesn't last long.Yes, Percy, in a way I suppose my eruption at all of you is designed to end discussion, if discussion was ever the word for what goes on here. I'm trying to exit this place. Hard to explain why it's so hard to leave this little corner of Hell. I must still have illusions of getting someone to see my point of view. How I can maintain that illusion through all the blatant evidence that it's never going to happen I don't know. How so many people can be so consistently wrong about absolutely anything I post is really very hard to fathom. Jump on the weirdest misreading possible, then insist on it against any attempt I make to clarify, forget everything I ever said about the same thing in past years, this is a bruising experience to go through day by day by day. Oh but I don't DARE ever say such a thing: that's just playing martyr and is sure to bring me worse bruises too.You all even have the gall to believe you know my motives. Almost every post here includes some imputation of sleazy reasons for anything I say. You all think my eruption into namecalling is such a terrible thing but you are blind to the insults each of you slings at me in just about every single post here. How I took it for so long is the mystery, not that ever blow up in response. Can I really think anybody would ever see what is REALLY going on at EvC? I'd better give it up if so.Is it so strange that I'm at odds with the whole crowd here really? It's so rare that anybody ever agrees with me or says anything positive to anything I say and yet you think I should be friendlier to this pack of wolves?May God help me to leave this place now.

I said no such thing ever. I said no such thing ever. Believing the KJV is the best translation and that a shared text would be less confusing for the Church doesn't mean I think it should be IMPOSED and I never said any such thing. I said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about a "universal governing body." I guess when a person abandons Genesis they must also abandon the ability to read.

Thanks for withdrawing my name. But you're wrong about what "fundamentalists" think too. You couldn't possibly back up your statement that Protestants are trying to establish a "universal governing body" over the Church. But you are also wrong that that is what the Reformation was about. It was about the false doctrine of Catholicism that doesn't save but leads to Hell, faith plus works in a word, and the Antichrist papacy.abe: The universal authority the Protestant Reformation DID establish was the Bible, God's own word, over the human traditions of the Catholic Church, the "Magisterium," which often contradicts God's word. /abeI think what you got wrong in what I was saying about the Bible was my opinion that we need a new Bible translation committee made up only of Church men and the best translators and scholars we can assemble {ABE: but only all God-fearing Bible believers like the original KJV translators, no liberals, no compromisers. You are welcome to your own corrupted version since you seem to prefer it. /ABE}, to finally do what the Revision Committee of 1881 was supposed to do but didn't: a CAREFUL minimal revision of the KJV to bring it up to date and correct the few errors it contains. The 1881 committee did damage to the Bible, and all the other translations we've had since have only made the problems worse, besides being done by commercial interests instead of by the Church itself. All the modern Bibles are based on the corrupt Greek manuscripts the 1881 committee introduced as well as their thousands of unwarranted changes for the most part in ugly klutzy English, changes they made against their own guidelines.I said nothing to suggest anything about a governing body or anything about universal authority. HOWEVER, it would be STUPID to suggest that Christians don't need guidance in reading the Bible. That is why God appointed preachers, pastors, teachers, evangelists, prophets and so on, to aid us in that effort.aBE: What dwise said is just weird. A concept of freedom in the world did come out of the Protestant Reformation, became the basis of the American Constitution, and it started with freedom of conscience or freedom of religion, but the idea that we are no longer ruled by authority is way off, that somehow we are now to read the Bible completely on our own, for instance, or make up our own religion, which is what it sounds like, is far from the spirit of the Reformation. We are to live by God's word rather than our own imagination or human tradition, that's our final authority. There is no coercion, though, Protestants won't torture and murder you if you don't believe as we do.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : to add abe and change a couple wordsEdited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.