What Is "The Establishment"?

The establishment isn't a group of people, it's our institutions. It's our political systems, the criminal justice system, financial and banking systems, education and welfare systems, regulatory systems, local government, religious organisations, media and so on. These things keep us secure and make economic and societal and cultural progress possible. We shouldn't think of institutions in purely negative terms, you only need to see what happens in failed states to understand how valuable these things are.The trick is to keep them in balance.

It's difficult for the people within all established institutions to relinquish power, that's why we have other systems, like the law and the media and limited terms of office, compulsory votes to elect representatives and so on.I'm not a fan of the American democratic process or many of your cultural practices, in many respects your society is a 19th century throwback surrounded by 21 century technology but you do have a modern, functioning democracy that allows freedom of expression and individual rights. Y'all just think you're still in the Wild bleeding West.

Um, which establishment would that be? At every election the BBC is attacked by all political parties. Isn't it? Bugger, je suis desolet

Oddly, Tony Blair isn't returning my calls so it's down to you I'm afraid.

Yeh I know. last week I scratched my car on the gate post and the strap broke on my suitcase. Bloody useless BBC, can't do anything right......

Remarkable, you can do irony - albeit a tad heavily - but you can't recognise it.....and then this! Just absolutely bloody hilarious.The google search phrase "BBC left wing bias" returns "About 296,000 results"

For god's sake.....the point is that the BBC is routinely accused of being both left wing biased and right wing biased by whoever is of the opposite view. Cherry picking quotes from either is both tedious, pointless and dishonest.You might also consider that the BBC did not cause anybody to be abused in Rotherham anymore than they caused me to stub my toe on the coffee table.Engage brain before replying.

You're randomly mixing up different arguments, pick one. Is it the BBC, Tony Blair, British civilisation, media power, Iraq, Rotherham, elitism. What? At the moment you're just another ranting nutter.

Ok, nutter it is then. Goodnight all.