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Message 7 of 46 (735897)
08-27-2014 4:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Straggler
08-27-2014 12:29 PM


Re: What Is "The Establishment"?
We often hear people talk about "the establishment". But what is it?
To add to what others have said . . .
The Establishment is most strongly influenced by what will keep them in power. This can run the gamut from pandering to the rich for campaign money, or pandering to the majority at the expense of the minority. What you have is an institution that is slow to respond, takes fewer risks, and is more concerned with solutions that will appease voters than solutions that will actually solve a problem.

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Message 10 of 46 (735909)
08-27-2014 5:43 PM
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08-27-2014 5:28 PM


Re: What Is "The Establishment"?
We seem to have a polarized disfunctional government completely at odds and balanced only in fecklessness at this time..imo.
To put it another way, there is a segment of the political body that is more concerned with ideological purity than actually solving problems. There is the idea that it is a bad thing for something in government to work well if your political opponents can take credit for it. It is better that America fail at the expense of someone getting credit for America working.
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Message 15 of 46 (735918)
08-27-2014 6:15 PM
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08-27-2014 5:49 PM


Re: What Is "The Establishment"?
So which segment of the political body is "the establshment"?
The ideological-at-all-costs segment? Or the other segment? Or is this a case of one part of the establishment Vs another part?
The whole thing is the Establishment, and it is incapable of solving problems right now because 1/2 of 1 branch of government doesn't want the government to solve anything. When your ideology is that government doesn't work, where is the incentive in making government work?

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Message 25 of 46 (735959)
08-28-2014 4:08 PM
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08-27-2014 6:27 PM


Re: What Is "The Establishment"?
So as far as you are concerned "the establishment" is just "the government"?
The government is the tip of the spear, so to speak. What corporations can or can't do is determined by government regulation. In return, politicians are given or denied campaign contributions. It is also the politicians that keep this relationship between regulatoin and campaign finances in place.
The government holds the reins on this one, even if they are being told where to go. We can't expect companies to go out of their way to make less money. That isn't how they are set up. However, we should expect our elected representatives to do what is best for the people. I think that is where the divide really comes in.
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