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Coyote
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Message 2 of 243 (736087)
09-02-2014 12:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
09-01-2014 9:46 PM


On fats (yum!)
I switched to a low carb diet a few weeks ago, but didn't pay any attention until I went looking for another notch on my belt to tighten things up--and there were no more notches.

Went to the scales and found I had lost maybe 12 lbs. painlessly by eating bacon, sausages, pork ribs, fatty steaks and omelets (as well as lots of salads with bacon bits and blue cheese), while avoiding sugar, donuts, pasta, bread and the like.

Hmmmmm. Sounds real good so far.


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Message 14 of 243 (736253)
09-05-2014 11:48 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Faith
09-05-2014 10:16 PM


Low carbs vs. hi fats
Faith--it is rare that I agree with you, but in this case--I do.

But to take things a step further, it is not so much a low-carb diet that seems to work best, but a hi-fat diet.

For me, a couple of nice Italian sausages and maybe three strips of fatty bacon in the morning carries me all day, and for dinner (with some red wine) either a salad with blue cheese or even just a bit of salami and cheese works well. I don't get as hungry as I used to, and there are no snacks in between.

From what I read, it is the fat that satisfies the appetite.

In any case, it is working so far. I'm going to have to buy a new belt (smaller) and will be able to start wearing jeans that I had long since outgrown.

All this while eating the foods I really like!


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.


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Message 72 of 243 (751458)
03-03-2015 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Jon
03-03-2015 11:36 AM


Re: Recommendations of the Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee
The fast food industry didn't change their menu to better conform to USDA guidelines.

Many of them did change their menus to conform to what they thought customers wanted.

McDonalds and others didn't just add salads to their menus on a whim!


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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Message 122 of 243 (751987)
03-07-2015 12:44 PM
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03-07-2015 12:04 PM


Re: Anatomy of a Low-Carb Diet
My own personal ad hoc rule: if it tastes good, it's fattening.

I'm eating breakfast now--nothing but bacon.

Tastes good, and holds me all day. I've lost over 20 lbs this way.


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Message 156 of 243 (762245)
07-09-2015 9:46 PM
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07-09-2015 12:38 PM


Re: Is fat's bad rap finally coming to an end?
Bacon! You forgot bacon!

I do four strips of bacon for breakfast many days--and nothing else. I don't need lunch after that as the brain thinks its no longer hungry. Other days may be sausage.

And I cut out bread, pasta, sugar, processed foods and most other related carbs.

Once a week I go out for breakfast and have a nice bacon, mushroom, and cheddar cheese omelet with country potatoes, and that's about the main carb load for the whole week.

Result--lost 25 lbs in one year, from 190 to 165. And feeling fine.

And I resumed sabre fencing after a 35 year break.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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Message 158 of 243 (762258)
07-09-2015 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by Faith
07-09-2015 10:33 PM


Re: Is fat's bad rap finally coming to an end?
I have bread, usually in a hamburger or garlic bread with a steak, maybe once a month.

If you are doing the basic "bacon diet" with lots of fats, the occasional hamburger bun or whatever is no big deal.

I think the trick is getting off of the sugar/insulin cycle where you have the ups and downs, with each down causing you to want more of some kind of sugar to get back up.

But everyone is different, so you have to see what works for you.

Me, I like bacon!


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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Message 161 of 243 (762346)
07-11-2015 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 160 by Faith
07-11-2015 11:14 AM


Re: Is fat's bad rap finally coming to an end?
Maybe try a big salad instead of the pasta? Load it up with blue cheese as that adds fat content, and it seems that a lot of fat tells the brain it is satisfied.

Or maybe a cobb salad, with chicken, cheese, bacon, tomato, and all the rest. Make it big enough and you shouldn't be hungry!

That's what I do, but what works for one doesn't always work for others.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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Message 182 of 243 (766270)
08-15-2015 11:20 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by Faith
08-15-2015 10:04 PM


On diets
Here's a thing to try, which worked for me:

Do either bacon or sausages for breakfast. No toast, no muffins, no sugar in the beverage--just four or five slices of a good thick bacon or maybe eight sausages.

Then, no snacks, no lunch, no nothing until dinner.

Dinner--either a nice fatty steak wrapped in mushrooms or onions or some such, or a huge salad smothered in blue cheese dressing. And of course your favorite adult beverage.

Give that a try for two weeks and see what you get. No guarantees, as we're all different, but that general regime about five or six days a week dropped me from 190 lbs to under 165, and still dropping slowly.

(The other day or two it is out for breakfast, with a big omelet including cheese, mushrooms, and bacon, along with country potatoes. Yum!)


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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Message 205 of 243 (769663)
09-23-2015 9:10 PM


Carbs etc.
RAZD and Faith--

I'm still doing well with the modified "paleo" diet.

I avoid sugars and processed foods as much as possible, also bread, pasta and anything that converts to sugars, such as potatoes. But I go out at least twice a week for a fine breakfast of a mushroom, cheese and bacon omelet and country potatoes.

Several other days a week, breakfast is tea (nothing added) and either bacon or sausage, then no lunch. The fat seems to fool the brain into not being so hungry. But then I'm out of the house most days, so food isn't so near to hand and that is an advantage.

Even sillier--after a break of several decades I've started fencing again, which I did for quite a while as a wee lad. The legs are ready to sue me for abuse! But the exercise is good and I can still show the youngsters a few tricks!

Anyway, cutting the carbs and adding good fat (rib eye!) seems to work for me. YMMV


  
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Message 211 of 243 (770506)
10-06-2015 7:34 PM


Bacon!
From a Drudge item:

World's oldest woman, 116, eats bacon daily

http://www.usatoday.com/...-116-eats-bacon-everyday/73444660

Not many people will say that eating bacon every day is the key to a long life, but the world’s oldest woman swears by it.

Susannah Mushatt Jones, 116, keeps a steady diet of bacon, eggs and grits for breakfast. A sign in her kitchen reads: “Bacon makes everything better.”

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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