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Colbard
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Message 17 of 106 (736193)
09-04-2014 10:52 PM


Water in the earth
During the flood many parts of the crust were turned over and mixed with water, trapping water underneath, and the layers of sediment that were deposited over that year made up what we live on. The old world also had reserves of water under the land so that the world stood in the water and out of it. 2 Peter 3:5 KJV.
The fountains of the deep happened when water was forced up through weaknesses in the land. In some places the ground became soft like mud, in other places jets of water sometimes the width of a stadium caused the land to be thrown up hundreds of meters, like from a volcano.
The earth during the flood became heated from the crustal movements and changes in pressure, causing water trapped beneath to turn into steam. There were thousands of explosions under the water during the flood, some of the craters formed towards the end of the flood survived burial and erosion, and remain on the earth today, sometimes recognized, but many lie under forests, snow, sand and sea etc.
These craters lack any evidence of a meteor, but have seams of iron formed by this kind of explosion.
It is taken for granted that the earth today is filled with molten lava and that when this surfaces we have volcanic explosions.
But this is not the case. There are burning layers of lava here and there under the earth, but the molten earth interior is a theory based on its behavior. It only behaves like it is molten with a crust etc. A volcanic explosion is caused by the same mechanisms that occurred during the flood, when water and lava came into contact.
While at the moment we have volcanoes in predictable areas, any area in the earth, particularly coastal areas are subject to sudden explosions, plunging whole cities into lava.

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Colbard
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Message 19 of 106 (736196)
09-04-2014 11:37 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by NoNukes
09-04-2014 11:19 PM


Re: Water in the earth
"...the less said about this hypothesis...the better"
These are your words, I'll go by them.

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Message 21 of 106 (736199)
09-05-2014 1:00 AM
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09-05-2014 12:14 AM


Re: Water in the earth
I believe that you are being honest when you can't even see the evidence in the creation story you posted.

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Colbard
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Message 23 of 106 (736204)
09-05-2014 5:47 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by dwise1
09-05-2014 2:41 AM


Re: Water in the earth
Sometimes you wonder if you are the only one who can look out of the cockpit, but then, fortunately there are others, few they be.
Myths and legends always reveal truth, in either what they are derived from, or the truth about the mentality of the adherents and or its authors.
One of the reasons that myths can become more mythical, is simply through translation and transferring the information from one generation to the next. It is amazing more detail is not lost.
There are a number of factors contributing to their distortions and loss over time.
One legend says that their ancestors - a family of eight members survived the great flood inside a fish. Sometimes you can find the missing details in the neighboring tribe.
I studied myths and legends for about 8 years as a hobby. I was quite skeptical until I found common themes world wide, regardless of location, culture or era.
In regards to a test tube for myths and metaphysics, I consider the KJV Bible the only guide. It has not been proven wrong to me yet.
So going back to the thread topic, the earth was destroyed by water, leaving water trapped in rock, sediment and underground reserves.
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Edited by Colbard, : spelling

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Message 28 of 106 (736243)
09-05-2014 9:33 PM
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09-05-2014 7:51 AM


Re: Water in the earth
Ref google "iron deposits meteor crater Arizona"
In regards to the mantle, NoNukes claimed that molten lava finds its way to the surface from a molten earth interior. I did not specify any supposed layers and was simply referring to the idea of the supposed origin of the lava.

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Message 30 of 106 (736251)
09-05-2014 10:19 PM
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09-05-2014 10:04 PM


Re: Water in the earth
I apologize for misquoting you.

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Message 32 of 106 (736256)
09-06-2014 5:15 AM
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09-06-2014 4:11 AM


Re: Water in the earth
The iron seams are up to 14 km away from the blast zone, but they are not from outer space. My guess it that they will be on the eastern side of the crater.
It's interesting how they cannot find the supposed meteor, and propose it evaporated on impact.
Barringer and others found iron scattered up to 9 km around the crater, but there was not enough to start a mine.
I checked on the direction of the blast zone, and it was NE direction, which does not surprise me, because the direction of the flood waters was to the greater part from west to east, especially towards the end of the flood, when this crater may have formed. It is not to say that this could not have been an impact crater from outer space, which would be far more unusual.
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Message 34 of 106 (736258)
09-06-2014 5:50 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by PaulK
09-06-2014 5:22 AM


Re: Water in the earth
Yes that Googling did not go well, but they are mostly giving reference to the deposits expected and searched for by Barringer for mining purposes, does not mean there are no signs of iron to be found.

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Message 38 of 106 (736270)
09-06-2014 8:56 AM
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09-06-2014 6:09 AM


Re: Water in the earth
That's right it is just my opinion, on a topic not directly related to the thread.

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Message 39 of 106 (736273)
09-06-2014 9:05 AM
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09-06-2014 8:23 AM


Re: Water in the earth
Ask PaulK he knows so much more with supporting papers from other supporting papers, which are supported by other supporting papers.

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Message 40 of 106 (736274)
09-06-2014 9:10 AM
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09-06-2014 8:28 AM


Re: more utter bullshit and nonsense
Are you attracted to BS and nonsense? obviously yes.
I took it for granted that you would know why the waters in the flood circulated around the globe from west to east?
So you don't know? Well you should have said that instead of blowing the BS trumpet. Where's your basic manners? Have I ever said that about your views?
That's right you don't have any views except to split hairs.

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Message 45 of 106 (736287)
09-06-2014 11:48 AM
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09-06-2014 9:45 AM


Re: more utter bullshit and nonsense
Just my opinion, no evidence at all.

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Message 47 of 106 (736289)
09-06-2014 11:52 AM
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09-06-2014 11:44 AM


Re: Water in the earth
I have failed, but I still dare to have an opinion. Such arrogance to claim to have one's own mind, independent of dependents.

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Message 50 of 106 (740162)
11-02-2014 4:01 AM
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09-06-2014 12:58 PM


Re: Water in the earth
Ringo writes:
Opinions are for ice cream. Subjectively, nobody can prove that their favorite is better than mine.
Objectively, opinions don't trump facts. Holding an opinion that defies facts isn't daring; it's just foolish.
In real life, opinions do matter because your opinions are formed by who you are and your life experiences. To say that your opinions don't matter is to say that you don't matter, which is one of my primary objections to so called 'scientific method'
It reduces a person's value by counting their opinion as nothing better than hot air, and then it shoves a grotesque theory called evolution down their neck and tells them that if they don't swallow, they won't graduate.
Sounds like communistic education to me.

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Message 54 of 106 (742572)
11-22-2014 7:25 AM
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11-02-2014 3:20 PM


Re: Water in the earth
Ringo writes:
Science can only draw useful conclusions by coming to a consensus on what is "true" - i.e. by eliminating individual opinions.
A process of elimination, yes it has value, but what if the majority of the consensus board are wrong?
That's my dislike.

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