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Coyote
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Message 15 of 106 (699444)
05-19-2013 11:05 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Dr Adequate
05-19-2013 10:43 PM


Re: Basic thermodynamics
Well you're talking about the atheist laws of thermodynamics. As we all know, Bible-believing Christians have a completely different set of laws of thermodynamics.
On another website a creationist went to great lengths to explain why the law of "thermal documents" was wrong (and this was before auto-correct).
Maybe that's what the aforementioned "Bible-believing Christians" are referring to?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

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Coyote
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Message 20 of 106 (736198)
09-05-2014 12:14 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Colbard
09-04-2014 10:52 PM


Re: Water in the earth
Don't you realize yet that the bible is an ancient mythical tale and has no necessary relation to the real world?
In terms of accuracy, you might as well study the old Coyote Man tales of the American Indians.
At least they can be very entertaining:
The Creation of Men and Women
When the world was finished, there were as yet no people, but the Bald Eagle was chief of the animals. He saw that the world was incomplete and decided to make some human beings. So he took some clay and modeled the figure of a man and laid him on the ground. At first he was very small but he grew rapidly until he reached normal size. But as yet he had no life; he was still asleep. Then the Bald Eagle stood and admired his work. "It is impossible," he said, "that he should be left alone; he must have a mate." So he pulled out a feather and laid it beside the sleeping man. Then he left them and went off a short distance, for he knew that a woman was being formed from the feather. But the man was still asleep and did not know what was happening. When the Bald Eagle decided that the woman was about completed, he returned, awoke the man by flapping his wings over him and flew away.
The man opened his eyes and stared at the woman. "What does this mean?" he asked. "I thought I was alone!" Then the Bald Eagle returned and said with a smile, "I see you have a mate! Have you had intercourse with her?" "No," replied he man, for he and the woman knew nothing about each other. Then the Bald Eagle called to Coyote who happened to be going by and said to him, "Do you see that woman? Try her first!" Coyote was quite willing and complied, but immediately afterwards lay down and died. The Bald Eagle went away and left Coyote dead, but presently returned and revived him. "How did it work?" said the Bald Eagle. "Pretty well, but it nearly kills a man!" replied Coyote. "Will you try it again?" said the Bald Eagle. Coyote agreed, and tried again, and this time survived. Then the Bald Eagle turned to the man and said, "She is all right now; you and she are to live together.
California Indian creation story
Most of these tales have the same historical accuracy as most of the biblical origin stories, i.e., none.

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Coyote
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Message 43 of 106 (736282)
09-06-2014 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Colbard
09-06-2014 9:10 AM


Re: more utter bullshit and nonsense
I took it for granted that you would know why the waters in the flood circulated around the globe from west to east?
The evidence shows there was no flood as described in the bible.
Discussing the direction of water flow in a fictional flood makes as much sense as arguing about how Hamlet parted his hair.
But there was a localized flood about three times older than the supposed biblical flood that we can study--and determine the direction of the water flow. Google "channeled scablands" and perhaps you will learn something about floods.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.

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Coyote
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Message 73 of 106 (743293)
11-29-2014 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by Colbard
11-29-2014 8:16 AM


Re: Water in the earth
Ringo writes:
But you don't accept the dating today. Why not?
Because I have had far too much evidence on the contrary.
Have you even read the dating thread RAZD has referred you to?
Or are you just rejecting any and all evidence, sight unseen, because it might disagree with your pre-conceived notions?
I suspect the latter, and I suspect the nature of your pre-conceived notions is all on a par with C14 dating an Australian penny.
In other words, you have no evidence against scientific dating methods. All you have is belief.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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Coyote
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Message 83 of 106 (743833)
12-05-2014 8:22 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by Colbard
12-05-2014 7:16 AM


Re: Water Fertilizer in the earth
I have looked at that site and it is abject nonsense.
I could spend a couple of hours explaining in detail just why that site is nonsense--I've been studying and using the C14 method for decades--but it would be a waste of time.
First, you don't know enough about the subject to be worth the effort, and second, you just reject all evidence that doesn't fit your belief anyway.
I have my own reasons for dismissing the method, which has nothing to do with the method.
That's because you are accepting belief and dogma even when it is contradicted by evidence.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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