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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: I did. They assumed that there would be iron from the meteor there, but found none. So where are these "iron seams" of yours?
The mining of the crater continued until 1929 without ever finding the ten-million ton meteorite that Barringer assumed must be hidden. At this time the astronomer Forest Ray Moulton performed calculations on the energy expended by the meteorite on impact, and concluded that the meteorite had most likely vaporized when it landed. By this point Barringer had spent over $600,000 in mining the crater, nearly bankrupting him, with no iron profits to show for it.
Daniel Barringer Perhaps you would also like to explain why the results of googling the terms you suggested find results completely contrary to your claims?
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Colbard Member (Idle past 3390 days) Posts: 300 From: Australia Joined: |
The iron seams are up to 14 km away from the blast zone, but they are not from outer space. My guess it that they will be on the eastern side of the crater.
It's interesting how they cannot find the supposed meteor, and propose it evaporated on impact. Barringer and others found iron scattered up to 9 km around the crater, but there was not enough to start a mine. I checked on the direction of the blast zone, and it was NE direction, which does not surprise me, because the direction of the flood waters was to the greater part from west to east, especially towards the end of the flood, when this crater may have formed. It is not to say that this could not have been an impact crater from outer space, which would be far more unusual. Edited by Colbard, : Add findings
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Can you support that with an actual reference and not telling people to do a google search?And can you explain just how these iron seams are supposedly formed? quote:It's interesting that your idea of giving a reference is telling people to do a google search - which doesn't find anything to support your claims. But if the meteorite should have vapourised - as the calculations indicated - then it is hardly surprising that it wasn't found.
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Colbard Member (Idle past 3390 days) Posts: 300 From: Australia Joined: |
Yes that Googling did not go well, but they are mostly giving reference to the deposits expected and searched for by Barringer for mining purposes, does not mean there are no signs of iron to be found.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
In other words you have no supporting references, at all. Of course, without any reason to expect iron seams to be produced by your mechanism the actual presence of iron is a moot point. And you haven't even tried to support that claim.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
It is not to say that this could not have been an impact crater from outer space, which would be far more unusual. How can you determine which explanation is more "usual"? ABE: I find this entire line of argument incredibly perplexing. Surely there are some volcanic craters present on earth even if the crater in question is not one of them. So what? How would that presence help reinforce your ideas? Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I checked on the direction of the blast zone, and it was NE direction, which does not surprise me, because the direction of the flood waters was to the greater part from west to east, especially towards the end of the flood, when this crater may have formed. Utter bullshit and nonsense. Why would flood waters be from west to east and what would that have to do with any blast zone. Is your goal only to make Christians look stupid? Have you ever read the Bible in any version?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Colbard Member (Idle past 3390 days) Posts: 300 From: Australia Joined: |
That's right it is just my opinion, on a topic not directly related to the thread.
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Colbard Member (Idle past 3390 days) Posts: 300 From: Australia Joined: |
Ask PaulK he knows so much more with supporting papers from other supporting papers, which are supported by other supporting papers.
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Colbard Member (Idle past 3390 days) Posts: 300 From: Australia Joined: |
Are you attracted to BS and nonsense? obviously yes.
I took it for granted that you would know why the waters in the flood circulated around the globe from west to east? So you don't know? Well you should have said that instead of blowing the BS trumpet. Where's your basic manners? Have I ever said that about your views? That's right you don't have any views except to split hairs.
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Percy Member Posts: 22388 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Colbard writes: I took it for granted that you would know why the waters in the flood circulated around the globe from west to east? Well don't keep us all in suspense. --Percy
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I do think it is important to point out utter nonsense and bullshit.
You are of course free to say what ever you wish about my views but please understand that I may well once again present facts to support my position. There is nothing in either of the Biblical Flood myths that would support your assertion of "I checked on the direction of the blast zone, and it was NE direction, which does not surprise me, because the direction of the flood waters was to the greater part from west to east, especially towards the end of the flood, when this crater may have formed." If you have evidence please present it. And also be aware that I have actually read the Bible so don't try your normal evasion of saying "read Genesis".Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2105 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
I took it for granted that you would know why the waters in the flood circulated around the globe from west to east? The evidence shows there was no flood as described in the bible. Discussing the direction of water flow in a fictional flood makes as much sense as arguing about how Hamlet parted his hair. But there was a localized flood about three times older than the supposed biblical flood that we can study--and determine the direction of the water flow. Google "channeled scablands" and perhaps you will learn something about floods.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.
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JonF Member (Idle past 167 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
"Google it" is not a reference, and googling one crater cannot establish a pattern common to all or many craters. Fail.
Still waiting for references. I see you have avoided evidence of meteor impacts such as shocked quartz, impact metamorphosis,... Boring. Assertion on assertion and not even a feeble attempt at support.
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Colbard Member (Idle past 3390 days) Posts: 300 From: Australia Joined:
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Just my opinion, no evidence at all.
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