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Percy
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Message 187 of 373 (740912)
11-08-2014 8:13 AM
Reply to: Message 186 by zaius137
11-08-2014 3:13 AM


Re: The hand of God
zaius137 writes:
Since inflation is arbitrary and assumed to have occurred in a fraction of a second, nothing says the universe can not be 6000 years old under arbitrary inflation.
Even if inflation never happened, there is a record of cosmological history stretching back around 13.8 billion years.
There are several cosmologies based on relativity that provides a explanation via gravitational time slowing.
Do they also explain talking snakes?
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 219 of 373 (741058)
11-09-2014 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 207 by marc9000
11-08-2014 8:48 PM


Hi Marc,
I think your paranoia is showing. More than half of scientists believe in God or a higher power. Scientist as a group have nothing against religion, and they especially have nothing against morality, but they (as well as many non-scientists) do object to fundamentalist Christian attempts to subvert science education by promoting religious views as science.
AbE: By the way, could you check your private messages? I sent you a PM from my Admin account about you needing to update your email address in your profile.
--Percy
Edited by Percy, : Fix salutation and add AbE.

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Percy
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Message 221 of 373 (741063)
11-09-2014 11:54 AM
Reply to: Message 209 by marc9000
11-08-2014 9:05 PM


marc9000 writes:
My reason for saying that "I'm not convinced spirituality is the proper word for anything that can be falsified or tested" is a way to cut through all the rabbit trails and get to my point so that I can....maybe finish up!
No matter how you cut it, no matter what excuses you provide, your statement is still wrong. No one claimed that spirituality can be falsified or tested. There are no atheists or agnostics out there, and certainly no one here, claiming or implying or even saying anything that can be remotely interpreted as implying that spirituality can be falsified or tested.
Books like these are responses to fundamentalist Christian attacks on science and science education. When Christian fundamentalism ceases these attacks the responses will also cease.
Sure, then science becomes god! Global warming and abortion are the new morality. As you probably noticed from the last election, it's going to take a while.
This is again a reflection of your own paranoid thoughts rather than anything real, and once again it isn't a response to anything I said. Science wouldn't be responding to fundamentalist Christian claims that Genesis is science if fundamentalist Christians weren't making those claims.
--Percy

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