Homosexuality and Evo, Creo, and ID

First, on the life and character of King James, I think that J.P. Kenyon's book 'The Stuarts' is more reliable than the 'jesus-is-lord' website.
Second, I notice that you did not mention the Overbury murder or the trial of the Earl and Countess of Somerset for the crime.
Third, can you think of any reason why Robert Carr was made Earl of Somerset and George Villiers was made Earl of Buckingham at the age of 25 and Duke of Buckingham - 'the only dukedom granted outside the blood royal between 1485 and 1660' - at 31, other than their being the king's catamites. Neither man possessed the sort of ability that would merit such promotions.
Fourth, we have the correspondence of Buckingham and King James, which is almost too explicit to quote here. Two examples will be enough.From Buckingham to James, July 1624:

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'the time I shall never forget at Farnham, where the bed's head could not be found between the master and his dog'

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From James to Buckingham, shortly before Christmas 1624:

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'that we may make at this Christenmass a new marriage, ever to be kept hereafter; for, God so love me, as I desired only to live in this world for your sake, and that I had rather live banished in any part of the world with you, than live a sorrowful widow-life without you. And so God bless you, my sweet child and wife, and grant that ye may ever be a comfort to your dear dad and husband.'

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I can't just take your word or your sources as necessarily authoritative. The letter to Buckingham supposedly calling him "wife" is just odd. abe: For him to mention God loving him in a letter to a homosexual lover makes NO sense at all. It sounds like a letter he would have written to his wife Anne that got misattributed to Buckingham, and how that might have happened raises all kinds of strange questions about the integrity of somebody in this saga. /abeI'm no scholar so I can't argue one way or the other, but the contrary picture of him as seriously Christian through the quotes given at the Christian sites carries a lot of weight it seems to me. Plus his love letters to his wife, their having had eight children, his denunciation of sodomy etc. Some writings must be bogus, forged or simply misunderstood on either side of this. He had enemies, people perhaps willing to slander him, some who tried to murder him. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You've given a lot of information in your various posts that talks about stages in the process but nothing that actually supports your claim that they are still waiting for some final judgment. Perhaps it's somewhere in all that information but it's beyond me to dig it out. The general procedure page you posted does not tell me anything, reports earlier in the year don't tell me anything. The CP article is the most recent report and I still have no reason to think what it says is wrong: the case has been settled and they owe the $150,000 in fines. And why would the guy who is trying to raise money for them even be doing that if the case hadn't already been settled?Please don't just pile on more irrelevant information. If you have something that truly speaks to the point, showing the status of the case NOW, please post it.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I feel that I should step into this debate, as I am a Christian in good standing with my church. I have a same gender attraction. I was born with it and it will not change--though I have found as I get more mature that I am also becoming attracted to both women and older people...though not in a passionate or lustful way. Do I consider it a sin? Yes, I do consider the lust a sin. I also consider it a sin for a heterosexual to lust after women. Excessive lust for anything other than God is a sin, in my belief. Lust for pride is a sin. Of having to always be right and to win every debate. LUst for money and/or power is a sin. Sin exists in our society, in my belief.That being said, I also believe in the freedom of our constitution. I believe, in essence, that people have the right to free speech and--dare I say it---freedom to lust after anything their little hearts desire. May they end up in Hell? I really don't know...this is an issue between them and their Creator or higher conscience. To quote GK Chesterson:

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The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. — Broadcast talk 6-11-35

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Again; how is saying "You can buy anything but a wedding cake" different than saying "You can buy anything in the store except at the white counter" or "You can ride anywhere on the bus as long as you don't sit in the front with the white folk", or "You can have a drink of water as long as you don't drink from the white faucet" or "Help wanted, no Irish need apply" or ""You can come in as long as you don't use the front door"?How does a cake validate a marriage?Inquiring minds want to know?

The Wikipedia article on Buckingham has him saying he only lives in the world for James, not the other way around as you have it.

The idea that you can just decide after the entire history of the world that marriage applies to any other duo than male and female is what makes all the talk about rights garbage.

Sweet Cakes by Melissa civil rights hearing date moved to 2015 Maybe third times a charm:

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The Kleins and the state have not been able to reach a settlement, so the case will go before an administrative law judge. A hearing date had been set for this month but was postponed last week until March 10, 2015, said Charlie Burr, a spokesman for the state Bureau of Labor and Industries.

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Sweet Cakes by Melissa's motion to recuse labor commissioner on grounds of bias quashed

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While an administrative law judge will hear the case, Avakian has the power to change and sign off on the final decision...A judge ruled against disqualifying Avakian earlier this month, and quashed a second request to move the matter outside administrative court....

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Yet Adams contends the Kleins did not discriminate, noting the couple had purchased a cake for a relative's wedding in the past. "This case is about whether the state of Oregon can force you to communicate a message and participate in a ceremony which violates your religious beliefs," she said.

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In Oregon, such contested civil rights cases are heard before an administrative law judge.

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After a hearing similar to a trial, the judge issues a proposed order. Both sides can lodge any objections they may have. Avakian, the state labor commissioner, then issues a final order.

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It isn't final until the Final Order. You can go to Oregon State's website to see the Final Orders that have been issued this year here. You've probably read that Christian Post news story a dozen times by now, but you can't read two other news stories? It tells you that in contested cases (which this is) an ALJ makes a draft for a final order and the commissioner signs off on it. If you can find any evidence an ALJ has drafted such a final order, please go and find it it should be on BOLI's website above (the last order such listed was from November 6th). Of course they do. The July one tells you that the ALJ hearing was scheduled for October and the October one tells you that it was postponed until March 2015. What was the name of the ALJ judge? Where is it on the Final Order page? What date this happen on? A question the donors should be asking themselves. I have. The status of the case NOW is that the hearing is scheduled 10th March 2015. The Klein's believe they have already lost and are talking about it as a done deal, this is part of their defence. Maybe the guy above thinks they will lose, or maybe he doesn't understand the case properly, or maybe he's a wicked embezzler trying to divert financial assistance from the Kleins.

Especially odd given his wife had been dead for a number of years when the letter was written.

OK, so March of next year.

Then I'm going to wonder if it's a forgery.

Of course you don't think any source but some whack Jesus is god site is authoritative. You will change all evidence to suit your purposes anyway. The letter was written to Buckingham. There is evidence of that. Mainly who he was writing to. The actual letter exists and can be read.

Like every other letter he sent to his lovers.IT BURNS

A possibility, has anyone who has studied them been able to provide any evidence of this? Or are you only wondering this because you have invested emotionally in the uprightness of the man?Perhaps you should also wonder whether a power mad dictator who believed he had been given divine rights to rule and oppress, might have more dimension to him than you had previously considered.

Now you know better than that. Only Faith can decide whether you're a Christian or not and given what you go on to say, I think her decison may well go against you.Repent!