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jar
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Message 1186 of 1309 (742279)
11-18-2014 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1185 by Faith
11-18-2014 3:01 PM


Re: Congratulations to the Devil
No special rights are granted to homosexuals. You need to try truth Faith.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 1187 of 1309 (742281)
11-18-2014 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1185 by Faith
11-18-2014 3:01 PM


Re: Congratulations to the Devil
Homosexuality is not a legitimate minority.
It is just as legitimate as a religious minority.
We do not grant special rights to aberrant groups.
Of course we do, silly.
What are you talking about?

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Message 1188 of 1309 (742283)
11-18-2014 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1187 by New Cat's Eye
11-18-2014 3:16 PM


Re: Congratulations to the Devil
Sorry, should not have said "we do not" but "we should not" since recently we do such nation-destroying things.

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Taq
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Message 1189 of 1309 (742284)
11-18-2014 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1185 by Faith
11-18-2014 3:01 PM


Re: Congratulations to the Devil
Homosexuality is not a legitimate minority. We do not grant special rights to aberrant groups.
Getting married is not a special right. It's not as if homosexuals are asking that only they should be able to marry. They are asking for the SAME rights as heterosexual couples.
If you are saying that only heterosexual couples should have the right to marry, then you are the one asking for special rights.
Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

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Taq
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Message 1190 of 1309 (742286)
11-18-2014 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 1184 by Faith
11-18-2014 3:00 PM


Re: Oy. This has nothing to do with personal marriages. Yikes.
You didn't read very carefully. I said ALSO with reproduction in mind but my main definition of what qualifies a couple for marriage has always been simply the complementary difference between the sexes. Homosexuals do not qualify for marriage by any conceivable standard.
They qualify for marriage by the most important standard, that they love each other and want to spend their lives together.

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jar
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Message 1191 of 1309 (742287)
11-18-2014 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1188 by Faith
11-18-2014 3:26 PM


Re: Congratulations to the Devil
Since when is getting married a special right and different than any other licensed contractual agreement?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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RAZD
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Message 1192 of 1309 (742288)
11-18-2014 4:03 PM
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11-18-2014 3:01 PM


Re: Congratulations to the Devil
... We do not grant special rights to aberrant groups.
Like bigoted fundamentalist religious groups.
Enjoy

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Message 1193 of 1309 (742289)
11-18-2014 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1188 by Faith
11-18-2014 3:26 PM


Re: Congratulations to the Devil
Sorry, should not have said "we do not" but "we should not" since recently we do such nation-destroying things.
Okay, well, that's just your opinion. And it has been rejected by society.
You lost. Move along.

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Message 1194 of 1309 (742305)
11-18-2014 6:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1182 by Faith
11-18-2014 2:57 PM


Just Wait a Bit
Even if you are correct in your argument you lose anyway. Very quickly now the majority opinion is shifting away from you. If you want to stay in a society that will probably support your views for at least your lifetime the you should move to Africa.
Also I see that your God has a rather poor aim. Those societies in greatest disagreement with you seem to be doing the best. Certainly with an overall quality of life higher than the African countries and the USofA. What you will not see in your lifetime or the lifetime of your youngest relatives is God improving his aim. The "just you wait" cry has been used for centuries and has gotten a bit humorous.

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Faith 
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Message 1195 of 1309 (742306)
11-18-2014 6:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1194 by NosyNed
11-18-2014 6:05 PM


Re: Just Wait a Bit
Yes the majority opinion has been going against Christians for some time. We do what we can in the hope of pushing it back, but it seems to be winning anyway. That's of course why I keep congratulating the devil. I don't know which societies you are talking about but it doesn't matter how well they are doing now; if they were formerly Christian they're going down hard under God's judgment. He has no reason to judge nonChristian societies as harshly but eventually the whole world is going down. I'm an American at heart, very sad to see her go, and it will be hard to take the vitriol of the "progressives" but I expect to go through it. EvC has given me a tough hide, I hope it holds up if things get physical. We also have to hope some will see the light and be saved.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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jar
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Message 1196 of 1309 (742310)
11-18-2014 6:38 PM
Reply to: Message 1195 by Faith
11-18-2014 6:16 PM


Try truth Faith
Faith writes:
Yes the majority opinion has been going against Christians for some time.
Bullshit Faith. The majority is not against Christians but against bigotry, hate and the brand of Christianity you try to market.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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dwise1
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Message 1197 of 1309 (742332)
11-19-2014 1:14 AM
Reply to: Message 1195 by Faith
11-18-2014 6:16 PM


Re: Just Wait a Bit
Yes the majority opinion has been going against Christians for some time.
Psychologist Bob Hartley had a patient with anger issues. He was a big middle-aged black man who was always angry about everybody hating him because he was black.
Patient (angrily): Everybody hates me because I'm black!
Dr. Hartley: Maybe nobody likes you because you are an unpleasant person.
Patient (having an epiphany): Huh.

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Phat
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Message 1198 of 1309 (742333)
11-19-2014 1:28 AM
Reply to: Message 1195 by Faith
11-18-2014 6:16 PM


Re: Just Wait a Bit
faith writes:
I'm an American at heart, very sad to see her go, and it will be hard to take the vitriol of the "progressives" but I expect to go through it.
What would really be horrible is if America gets wiped out financially---is poor and destitute---and the rest of the world begins being wealthier and more successful...all the while denying God. Will the U.S. Christians be humble at this point or will they turn angry and insist on bringing back patriotism rather than Jesus...

Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo
One of the major purposes of debate is to help you hone your arguments. Yours are pretty bad. They can use all the honing they can get.~Ringo

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Faith 
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Message 1199 of 1309 (742339)
11-19-2014 3:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1198 by Phat
11-19-2014 1:28 AM


Re: Just Wait a Bit
Economic collapse is one of the big ways God judges a nation and we've certainly been on the verge of it for years. There are plenty of Christians these days who understand that we're past political solutions, but I've been hoping for revival for a long time and I've pretty much given up that it's going to happen because the Church itself has too much to repent of that isn't going to happen. I'd really like to be wrong about that. I think we're at the point where all we can do is pray a lot more than usual, and otherwise fasten our seat belts as they say, for the very bumpy ride.
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Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Phat
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Message 1200 of 1309 (742340)
11-19-2014 6:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1199 by Faith
11-19-2014 3:51 AM


Re: Just Wait a Bit
I used to be certain that we were in the "last days". Now? I won't say what I believe except to say that some of the people will get reallly into Jesus and spirituality while the educated elite will be convinced that we are nuts and a danger and threat to society. Im not as fundamentalist as you, Faith...I agree that many christians are haters and bigots...but I also believe that Jesus is God and that logic, reason, and reality by itself wont be enough to pull humanity out of the growing spiritual crises.
I foresee many people saying that our charismania is a threat to the growth and recovery of global society once they get into this next big depression....and I don't want to be a doomsayer....but I think that what you see as persecution now is nothing compared to what will happen globally then. They will declare that "religious zealots" are a stumbling block to human progress.
To all of you who have faith in human wisdom alone: I wont say you are wrong, but I will say that the only real hope for society is knowing Jesus Christ. Not Jesus the fumbling human...as is incorrectly portrayed by some---but by Jesus the only hope for humanity.

Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo
One of the major purposes of debate is to help you hone your arguments. Yours are pretty bad. They can use all the honing they can get.~Ringo

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