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Author Topic:   Destiny is a reality.
Larni
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Message 6 of 84 (742827)
11-25-2014 4:53 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by bee
11-24-2014 11:55 PM


The thing about destiny is that you can point at any eventuallity of somebody's life and say "that was her destiny".
I don't see how you can diferentiate between someone realising their destiny and not.
How can one predict what one's destiny is?

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 19 of 84 (742992)
11-26-2014 8:21 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by bee
11-25-2014 9:30 PM


It might be possible that everybody ever has had a destiny but how could anyone ever know?

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 28 of 84 (743025)
11-26-2014 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by bee
11-26-2014 11:21 AM


Re: Destiny 101
If you look at the whole quote it refutes your interpretation.
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
It means that God gets the glory for your hard works.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


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Message 29 of 84 (743027)
11-26-2014 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by bee
11-26-2014 11:26 AM


By what they regret.
Now I see where you went wrong.
You are conflating doing what one wants to with Destiny. I'm the kind of person who does not have regrets: does that mean I've achieved my destiny?
Edited by Larni, : formatting

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

This message is a reply to:
 Message 24 by bee, posted 11-26-2014 11:26 AM bee has replied

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Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 32 of 84 (743030)
11-26-2014 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by bee
11-26-2014 11:46 AM


It's like asking, "How does one breathe?" or "How do I decide if whether or not I have exhaled oxygen out of my lungs?"
It is not all like that. We know in exacting detail how one breathes and the mechanisms around breathing.
What your really saying is "I beleive, but I can't explain it".
That's not an explanation, that's just whooly thinking.
Edited by Larni, : Capitalisation

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


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Message 33 of 84 (743032)
11-26-2014 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by bee
11-26-2014 11:48 AM


Re: Destiny 101
This is a whole new debate in and of its own...
Then you need to cease using it as justification for your conjecture about destiny if you cannot substantiate it.
That is the intellectually honest thing to do.
Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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 Message 31 by bee, posted 11-26-2014 11:48 AM bee has not replied

  
Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 41 of 84 (743044)
11-26-2014 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by bee
11-26-2014 11:58 AM


It just means that you haven't reflected enough.
Or reflected so much that I no longer torture myself for things I've done in the past.
I simply cannot believe that you are one of the VERY few people in the world who somehow haven't made a mistake.
I've made lots of mistakes. But living in regret serves no purpose.
it means that you have probably sold your soul to the devil.
Impossible. I sold my soul to one of my more whooly minded friends at university for the price of a pint. I think it came to 1.20.
Are you an atheist or something? I am sensing a tremendous lack of humanity from you.
Or sensing somebody not agreeing with you.
You still have not given any reason to suspect that what you say is any more than conjecture.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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 Message 36 by bee, posted 11-26-2014 11:58 AM bee has not replied

  
Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 42 of 84 (743045)
11-26-2014 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by bee
11-26-2014 12:07 PM


Um, what I'm trying to say is, we can not engage in any kind of debate of this caliber of topic without being at least the same spiritual beliefs.
So what you are saying that only people who beleive in your god can undertnad destiny?
Bollocks.
What you mean is that you have a fuzzy feeling about your place in the world (maybe you're even rationalising your position in the grand scheme of things) and you cannot articulate it.
Good one.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

This message is a reply to:
 Message 40 by bee, posted 11-26-2014 12:07 PM bee has not replied

  
Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 48 of 84 (743057)
11-26-2014 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by bee
11-26-2014 12:28 PM


So how does anyone know what their special purpose is?
Even if we allow hindsight, what are the markers of somebody who has achieved their purpose?
What happens when one achieves his special purpose?
Do they get to reroll on Purpose Chart(6b)?
Have you really thought this idea through?
Edited by Larni, : DVD extras

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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 Message 46 by bee, posted 11-26-2014 12:28 PM bee has not replied

  
Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


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Message 50 of 84 (743060)
11-26-2014 12:37 PM


bee writes:
I know it's their destiny because I'm a True Christian, and people who are in my level of enlightenment can see the Matrix.
Fuck it, I'm out of here. This guys a kook.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

  
Larni
Member
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 62 of 84 (743075)
11-26-2014 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by bee
11-26-2014 1:10 PM


Re: Destiny 101
Maybe it is your destiny to fuck off?
Edited by Larni, : More polition

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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