Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?

Convincing yourself seems to be your best talent.Edited by Colbard, : del

Some one else said I was 18, not me, shows how desperate you are.

What will you feel and say when your world of conclusions is proven wrong?
Not if, when.

Yes, it will be on a Sunday alright.

Would that be as in II Timothy 3:7 "Ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."?

What if you don't know that you don't want to know?

Hold fast to that which is good, telling people you came from an accident in a swamp is not good.

Keep dicing.

I did not come from there, and neither do I have pictures of people hanging from their tails in the sepia section of my family album.So you don't understand the swamp, then maybe the scrapings of an alien's elbow might have started life here?You can make up what you want, or better have no opinion and just follow the crowd.
Surely after Dr Adequate's assessment of your brains compared to mine, you should be able to come to a mighty high decision on that Q.Oh, but I must be a troll because I don't reveal my real age or name, unlike honest NoNukes or Coyote the Native American, or Jar the speaking cat.

Carbon dating is the holy grail of evolution. It's entire structure rests on that poor brick, and many other poor foundations like it have been buttressed to keep the confounded thing from looking unsupported.So why not introduce the topic of dating with a holed story? It's a perfect mockery in return for the instant rebuttals of anything that comes near this tottering mess called evolution.Pages and pages of arguments for it, but all the while the topic of the thread is derailed and ignored, because some people cannot see any value in creationism or ID.Some people would rather bend their energies disproving a lone class incident of no significance, than see an ounce of creationism or the Bible.
So if and when people are not prepared to listen, give them what they want to engage in, -useless arguments.

So now, if people don't want to accept responsibility for their own actions and feelings, anybody can be blamed for an inconvenient response and be called a troll and banned? Is that how it works?If you are so sensitive and offended at anything that might challenge your view on evolution, what are you doing here, responding to me in such a thread? It's like watching a movie you hate isn't it?I cannot be blamed for trolling when you are the one compelled to do things which annoy you. Where is the responsibility to yourself or are you are helplessly ill and waiting for an adaptation into a more complex and intelligent creature? It won't happen by chance - and it will never happen, no matter how much time passes.
It's time to give up evolution and become creative.

The coin story is true, and typical of teenagers, which I was at the time. What the mix up was did not concern me at the time and neither did I find out.
So you can have your lie accusations and religious injunctions back.I let the story out to watch the seagulls fight over a stone thought to be bread, to prove that contemplative thought is not going on at all, but bickering and fault finding, which are not the elements in which to introduce truth.The very fact that the argument has turned from the thread subject to the disputes over the two fields of thought, together with mud slinging and proof calling, shows that the opposition to creationism, is unable to focus on the subject at hand. An indication of a lack of intellectual application, which is necessary in order to be able to comprehend the implications of Divine thought as presented in the Bible. (but not necessarily by religions and its proponents).You claim that there is no evidence for creationism and so demand it. But I am aware that to a large degree you are not open to that evidence, but only to information that seems to agree with popular sanctions on evolution.
Evolution theory is just a way of looking at things. It's a point of view, and it sees what it does for evidence of itself. just because it is widely accepted, including by intellectuals of high standing, does not mean it is flawless, or even altogether true.Creationism does not have to find evidence, because everything that exists, is proof of creation, rather than snippets from nature.Once a person or society has decided to go down a certain track of philosophy which includes denial of the Creator, it is nigh impossible for them to see any evidence of truth outside of their head space. This also happens in false religion and in nearly every challenge the human mind faces.The only way to prove this point is to have two groups of schools, and universities, one which teaches creationism in the full sense, not half way as many denominations take it, and have the other schools strictly the regular teachings of evolution.Then the results can be compared in the students, for aptitude, achievements, intuition, practical skills, and every facet of learning including emotional, physical and mental balance.

Two men in an identical situation.The beautiful and faithful wives, have left the house unoccupied when the husband arrives home.
They have left a love note on the fridge, indicating that she has gone to town for the dry cleaning and won't be back until 8 pm.
There's a warm dinner in the oven and desert in the fridge.The men come home each to their own identical house.Husband A is totally delighted, that the house is so well run, and there are signs of her love everywhere, the whole house is a place of love.Husband B is a weak man, and does not notice anything, and gobbles the food down.9 pm and she does not arrive. There's a weather storm.A does not finish his meal, reads the note again, when the phone rings, he picks it up and it is cut. He decides to wait for 15 minutes and then drive to meet her.B freaks out about the lightning and gets a knot in his stomach, decides to look for an aspirin to settle himself and finds the note on the fridge. The phone rings and he picks up the phone when it goes dead. He notices the house is all tidy, and suspects she has left him for good. And in anger rips the phone out, trashes the kitchen, and burns the note. (the French revolution)A decides to meet her when the phone rings (1844 AD) she'll be home in two minutes.B has no phone, and decides that she never loved him, and as far as he is concerned she is as good as dead.A's wife enters the door and there's total happiness.B's wife could not contact him by phone, she finds the house trashed and a drunk on the lounge.Both had the same evidence.

We had top scientists in Australia, examine the evidence for this survey and types like it.
It so happens that church communities are far more accepting of the disadvantaged than the universities etc. and are found to be looking after them - trying to educate them, so that the conclusion - of Christians being dumber than the rest, is not only false, but shows a lack of compassion and understanding.Edited by Colbard, : shorten

I go along with the way you reason, you are very even. You know that we differ in our conclusions of what we have studied and seen, and it is not likely that we can convince each other into the other's thoughts.Evolution touches a wide spectrum of investigations, yet it remains challenged, even by former proponents, and the same goes for creationism, who have a vast number of absconders.It seems that the education system is just a reflection of our mixed culture and will probably always be in tune with it.