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See Message 2938 where I had to correct some of my impressions.I also mentioned that sad grandmother some posts ago, who should have been better trained.

What in the hell is the basis for blaming this crap on gun control fanatics? Faith, you are a piece of work.

This is the opinion of those who open-carry in an effort to educate the public. The fact is that the public IS freaked out because of all the anti-gun stuff we hear these days, and open-carry is unusual so it is scary to those who are not used to being around guns. Years ago nobody thought twice about people having guns, it was normal. Things have changed BECAUSE of the gun control fanatics.Another thing my brother told me was that when he was in high school there was a shooting range in the basement, that the ROTC used. He could take his own rifle to school and use the range, they only asked that he remove the bolt while walking through the halls. Times have changed. Why? Because of the push for gun control. He suspects there is no longer a shooting range in the school basement.ABE: When you call me a "piece of work" when I am reporting the opinion shared by millions of your fellow citizens you are also calling THEM a piece of work. You might have a little more respect for the responsible law-abiding citizens who own guns./Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Total nonsense.Open carry is not unusual because of gun control fanatics. People in general stopped carrying guns around more than a century ago unless they were going somewhere where they intended to do some shooting.Further, you blame the police not knowing the law on somebody other than the police. Really, Faith. That police department's lack of training after the legislature passes a law is to be blamed on gun control fanatics?How about some evidence? Because the crap you are spouting here is counter intuitive.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Just a quick question--Do you own any guns yourself?

Wrong.I don't have any respect for uniformed and incorrect opinions, and none is due. And the idea that I have to respect someone's negative opinion of other responsible people is ridiculous.Gun advocates don't have any monopoly on being law abiding. I've given reasons for why I think your opinion is complete crap. Didn't see any rebuttal from you.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

What's your real name and address?

You just wrote three totally crazy sentences. I didn't say gun control people were irresponsible. They are the ones who are uninformed, though, not the pro-gun people, and have knee-jerk objections due to their ignorance. Nothing to do with being responsible or law-abiding. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You cannot read. I did not accuse you of saying any such thing.

You didn't accuse me of calling gun control people irresponsible? OK, but that's how I read this: Someone's negative opinion of other responsible people?And this: As if I'd said otherwise.Seems to me you should respect the simple fact that gun control effects HAVE made guns more scary and gun owners subject to hassles nobody used to have. If anybody walked through a high school even with an unbolted rifle these days everybody would scream and run for cover and call the cops. And that IS because of the gun control fanaticism.You don't like the word "fanatics" perhaps. But it's true. These are people who know NOTHING about guns, are always blaming murders on guns and making life difficult for the good guys, in fact CAUSING the situation where the murders can occur. Because of their ignorance and fanaticism all based on fear and total misunderstanding of the reality of the situation.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Why are you reluctant to answer that simple question?

"Someone's negative opinion of other responsible people?"That's what I did say, yes. I called your opinion of gun control advocates negative. Your opinion is disrespectful to large number of gun control advocates, but you think I must respect your disrespect. Nope. That's not logical. What's the law on open carry in schools in your area? Is a person doing open carry in a school a law abiding citizen? Would I be uninformed if I called the police in the situation you described?

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The Gun-Free School Zones Act (GFSZA) is a federal United States law that prohibits any unauthorized individual from knowingly possessing a firearm at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone as defined by 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(25)

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Get informed.

What's your real name and address?I can keep this up as long as you want.

I don't think you are following the discussion here at all.It is precisely that Gun Free School Zone act that I'm saying is the CAUSE of the school murders. You think murderers obey such laws? No, it's the good gun owners who obey them, which is why they aren't there when the murderers show up.That law was written in the 90s. My brother was in high school in the 60s, when there was no such law, when he was able to carry his unbolted rifle through the halls without anybody freaking out.That law is based on ignorant uninformed gun-control fanaticism. It's exactly what I'm talking about.

But if the murderers did not have guns, they would not have killed those innocent people.Your solution of putting guns in schools is an attempt to solve the problem of violence with more violence. It just doesn't work. Violence always escalates violence. If someone wants to shoot up an elementary school but they know there are armed teachers on duty, they would need to step up their game wouldn't they? Those shooters were not concerned about their own life, they wanted to take others out with them. So they are not going to let some amateur teachers with guns stop them. They will come in with more clips, fire off more rounds at a faster pace. Sure, one of the teachers will probably take them out sooner or later, but people will still die. Ok so let's give the teachers semi-automatic weapons as well. It never ends. Faith, in each of these passages, Jesus is saying that more violence is not the solution to violence. Was he wrong?HBD